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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: "Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@Maxtor.com>,
	"'Norman Diamond'" <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>,
	"'Wes Janzen '" <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>,
	"'Rogier Wolff '" <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	"'John Bradford '" <john@grabjohn.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nikita@namesys.com,
	"'Pavel Machek '" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"'Justin Cormack '" <justin@street-vision.com>,
	"'Vitaly Fertman '" <vitaly@namesys.com>,
	"'Krzysztof Halasa '" <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results get worse
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:47:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F9D7666.6010504@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F9D6891.5040300@namesys.com>

Hans Reiser wrote:
> Mudama, Eric wrote:
> 
>>
>> or put it under heavy write workload and remove
>> power.
>>
> Can you tell us more about what really happens to disk drives when the 
> power is cut while a block is being written?  We engage in a lot of 
> uninformed speculation, and it would be nice if someone who really knows 
> told us....
> 
> Do drives have enough capacitance under normal conditions to finish 
> writing the block?  Does ECC on the drive detect that the block was bad 
> and so we don't need to detect it in the FS?


Does it really matter to speculate about this?

If you don't FLUSH CACHE, you have no guarantees your data is on the 
platter.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-27 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-27 17:43 Blockbusting news, results get worse Mudama, Eric
2003-10-27 18:48 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-27 19:47   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-10-27 20:03     ` John Bradford
2003-10-29 20:01       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-30  8:30         ` John Bradford
2003-10-28  1:21     ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 12:54       ` Krzysztof Halasa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-29 20:11 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-27 18:06 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-27 19:18 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-27 13:07 Samium Gromoff
2003-10-26 22:12 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-26 18:33 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-26 22:03 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-27  9:34 ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-27 10:23   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-10-27 23:31   ` Jason Lunz
2003-10-28 20:56   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26  7:37 Norman Diamond
2003-10-26 10:39 ` John Bradford
2003-10-26  9:41   ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-26 11:38   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-26 11:56     ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-26 12:06     ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 13:59     ` Krzysztof Halasa

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