From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Felipe Alfaro Solana <felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>,
John stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [pm] fix time after suspend-to-*
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:29:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F9EDFCB.4090107@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1067372182.864.11.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com>
Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 18:28, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
>
>>You are not asking userspace whether to reboot or not, and you should
>>not ask them about suspend, either.
>
>
> OK, so how should the system behave when a real-time-like process is
> running? I talked about the CD burning example. Should the kernel simply
> ignore the process and suspend?
>
>
>>>1. Network connections must be reestablished. A userspace program can't
>>>try to automatically reestablish a broken TCP connection for no apparent
>>>reason. A broken TCP connection could be the cause of an overloaded or
>>>broken server/service. If we do not inform userspace processes that the
>>>system is going to sleep (or that the system has been brought up from
>>>standby), they will blindly try to restore TCP connections back, even
>>>when the remote server is broken, generating a lot of unnecesary
>>>traffic.
>>
>>gettimeofday(), if I slept for too long, oops, something strange
>>happened (maybe there was heavy io load and I was swapped out? or
>>suspend? Did machine sleep for 20 minutes in cli?) try to reconnect.
>
>
> Does "gettimeofday()" have into account the effect of adjusting the time
> twice a year, once to make time roll forward one hour and another one to
> roll it back?
Actually gettimeofday() does NOT do that. It always returns GMT since 1970.
The daylight savings thing is really a timezone shift, not a time shift.
My suggestion, which I admit may rely on a particular distro, is to define two
new run levels. One for going to sleep and one to wake up. This is how the
system boots and powers down already. The new levels would allow applications
which have special needs to put the proper notifier stuff in the runlevel
directory, just as is done for boot/ shutdown. It is this code which should
tell the system to sleep, just as the shutdown run level shuts off the machine.
>
>
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-28 21:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-22 23:33 [pm] fix time after suspend-to-* Pavel Machek
2003-10-22 23:52 ` john stultz
2003-10-23 8:17 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-23 20:23 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-23 20:55 ` john stultz
2003-10-23 23:09 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-23 23:38 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-24 0:29 ` john stultz
2003-10-24 0:39 ` john stultz
2003-10-24 2:10 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-24 7:48 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-27 23:24 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-27 23:43 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-28 1:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-10-28 8:33 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-28 9:32 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 11:41 ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-10-28 12:29 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 12:39 ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-10-28 22:23 ` Peter Chubb
2003-10-29 2:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-29 9:43 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 14:30 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-28 17:28 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 20:16 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-28 21:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-10-28 21:29 ` George Anzinger [this message]
2003-10-29 9:38 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-29 11:28 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-10-29 11:55 ` PCI Bus error 6290 or 0290 Remus
2003-10-29 12:40 ` Meelis Roos
2003-10-29 12:49 ` Remus
2003-10-29 20:42 ` [pm] fix time after suspend-to-* George Anzinger
2003-10-30 9:02 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 15:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-28 17:26 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 18:20 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-28 19:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-28 20:19 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-24 7:49 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-23 23:40 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-27 22:43 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-22 23:57 ` Måns Rullgård
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-29 8:20 Mathias Fröhlich
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