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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Cc: Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
	Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
	"Kevin P. Fleming" <kpfleming@backtobasicsmgmt.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Is initramfs freed after kernel is booted?
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:07:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FBB8748.8020503@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031117191513.GA24159@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>

viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 09:33:59PM +0300, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> 
>>On Monday 17 November 2003 21:03, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:50:34PM -0500, Chris Friesen wrote:
>>>
>>>>viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:06:48AM -0500, Chris Friesen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyone know why it overmounts rather than pivots?
>>>>>
>>>>>Because amount of extra code you lose that way takes more memory than
>>>>>empty roots takes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Remove whatever files you don't need and be done with that.
>>>>
>>>>How do you remove files from the old rootfs after the new one has been
>>>>mounted on top of it?
>>>
>>>You do that before ;-)
>>
>>would the following work?
>>
>>pivot_root . /initramfs
>>cd /initramfs && rm -rf *
> 
> 
> No.  pivot_root() will not move the absolute root of tree elsewhere.
> 
> 
>>?? doing it before is rather hard ... you apparently still need something to 
>>execute your mounts :)
> 
> 
> You do, but you can trivially call unlink() on the executable itself.  It
> will be freed after it does exec() of final /sbin/init...
> 
> Alternatively, you could
> mkdir /root
> mount final root on /root
> 
> chdir("/root");
> mount("/", "initramfs", NULL, MS_BIND, NULL);
> mount(".", "/", NULL, MS_MOVE, NULL);
> chroot(".");
> execve("/sbin/init", ...)
> 
Nope. initramfs shares the superblock with 'rootfs', which has the 
MS_NOUSER flags set. Hence graft_tree() (which is the worker function 
for MS_BIND) refuses to work.
Can't we just remove the MS_NOUSER flags if initramfs is active?
Probably not the correct way, but certainly the quickest :-)
The correct way would probably be to clone the superblock of initramfs, 
set the filesystem-type of initramfs to 'ramfs' so that initramfs 
appears to be a chroot()ed filesystem like initrd. Then we could do a 
pivot_root and we have the contents of initramfs still available.
But needs someone with deeper fs-knowledge than myself to do it.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-19 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-16 17:09 Is initramfs freed after kernel is booted? Andrey Borzenkov
2003-11-16 19:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-17 14:39   ` Chris Friesen
2003-11-17 15:36     ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2003-11-17 15:39       ` Chris Friesen
2003-11-17 15:46         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-17 18:32           ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2003-11-17 15:47         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-11-17 16:06           ` Chris Friesen
2003-11-17 16:25             ` Erik Mouw
2003-11-17 17:25             ` viro
2003-11-17 17:47               ` viro
2003-11-17 17:50               ` Chris Friesen
2003-11-17 18:03                 ` viro
2003-11-17 18:33                   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2003-11-17 19:15                     ` viro
2003-11-19 14:19                       ` Olaf Hering
2003-11-19 15:07                       ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2003-11-25 18:26                         ` Manuel Estrada Sainz

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