From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Joe Korty <joe.korty@ccur.com>
Cc: Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>,
root@chaos.analogic.com, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] possible erronous use of tick_usec in do_gettimeofday
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:26:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FC3E51C.4000807@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031125211240.GA15759@rudolph.ccur.com>
Joe Korty wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 11:57:55AM -0800, George Anzinger wrote:
>
>>Joe Korty wrote:
>>
>>>test10's version of do_gettimeofday is using tick_usec which is
>>>defined in terms of USER_HZ not HZ.
>>
>>We still have the problem that we are doing this calculation in usecs while
>>the wall clock uses nsecs. This would be fine if there were an even number
>>of usecs in tick_nsec, but in fact it is somewhat less than (USEC_PER_SEC /
>>HZ). This means that this correction (if we are behind by 7 or more ticks)
>>will push the clock past current time. Here are the numbers:
>>
>>tick_nsec =999849 or 1ms less 151 ns. So if we are behind 7 or more ticks
>>we will report the time out 1 us too high. (7 * 151 = 1057 or 1.057 usec).
>>
>>Question is, do we care? Will we ever be 7ms late in updating the wall
>>clock? As I recall, the wall clock is updated in the interrupt handler for
>>the tick so, to be this late, we would need to suffer a long interrupt hold
>>off AND the tick recovery code would need to have done its thing. But this
>>whole time is covered by a write_seqlock on xtime_lock, so how can this
>>even happen? Seems like it is only possible when we are locked and we then
>>throw the whole thing away.
>>
>>A test I would like to see is to put this in the code AFTER the read unlock:
>>
>>if (lost )
>> printk("Lost is %d\n", lost);
>>
>>(need to pull " unsigned long lost;" out of the do{}while loop to do
>>this)
>>
>>In short, I think we are beating a dead issue.
>
>
> There are other issues too: the 'lost' calculation is a prediction
> over the next 'lost' number of ticks. That prediction will be wrong
> if 1) adjtime goes to zero within that interval or, 2) adjtime was
> zero but went nonzero in that interval due to a adjtimex(2) call.
>
> Despite these flaws the patch replaces truly broken code with code
> that is good but slightly inaccurate, which is good enough for now.
Can you prove that "lost" is EVER non-zero in a case we care about? I.e. a case
where the read_seq will exit the loop?
I could be wrong here, but I don't think it can happen. That is why I suggested
the if(lost) test.
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-25 23:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-27 23:44 gettimeofday resolution seriously degraded in test9 Joe Korty
2003-10-28 0:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-10-28 0:29 ` john stultz
2003-10-28 1:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-10-28 11:55 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-10-28 18:21 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-10-29 10:07 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-10-29 19:38 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-10-29 22:50 ` Peter Chubb
2003-10-30 21:33 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-30 21:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-30 22:50 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-30 23:15 ` Peter Chubb
2003-10-30 23:47 ` George Anzinger
2003-11-25 16:42 ` [RFC] possible erronous use of tick_usec in do_gettimeofday Joe Korty
2003-11-25 17:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-11-25 19:57 ` George Anzinger
2003-11-25 21:12 ` Joe Korty
2003-11-25 23:26 ` George Anzinger [this message]
2003-10-30 23:27 ` gettimeofday resolution seriously degraded in test9 George Anzinger
2003-10-30 10:39 ` Gabriel Paubert
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2003-11-28 1:29 ` [RFC] possible erronous use of tick_usec in do_gettimeofday Andi Kleen
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