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From: Tupshin Harper <tupshin@tupshin.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bitkeeper-users@bitmover.com
Subject: Re: RFC - tarball/patch server in BitKeeper
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:17:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FDCEF70.5040808@tupshin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031214172156.GA16554@work.bitmover.com>

Larry McVoy wrote:

>Merry Christmas.
>
>I've prototyped an extension to BitKeeper that provides tarballs
>and patches.  The idea is to make it possible for all trees hosted by
>bkbits.net provide access to the data with a free client (included below
>in prototype form).
>
>The system is simplistic, it just provides a way to get the most recent
>sources as a tarball and then any later updates as a patch.  There is
>no provision for generating diffs, editing files, merging, etc.  All of
>that is something that you can write, if you want, using standard tools
>(think hard linked trees).
>
>Before rolling this out, I want to know if this is going to (finally)
>put to rest any complaints about BK not being open source, available on
>all platforms, etc.  You need to understand that this is all you get,
>we're not going to extend this so you can do anything but track the most
>recent sources accurately.  No diffs.  No getting anything but the most
>recent version.  No revision history.  
>
>If you want anything other than the most recent version your choices
>are to use BitKeeper itself or, if you want the main branches of the
>Linux kernel, the BK2CVS exports.  This is not a gateway product, it
>is a way for developers to track the latest and greatest with a free
>(source based) client.  It is not a way to convert BK repos to $SCM.
>
>If the overwhelming response is positive then I'll add this to the
>bkbits.net server and perhaps eventually to the BK product itself.
>
>--lm
>
I'm sure many people will find this useful. Personally (and this is not 
intended as any sort of flame bait), I just want a way to get access to 
all raw bk changesets for a given project. All existing methods of 
getting information out of a bk repository either involve running bk 
yourself, or getting incomplete information. You have argued 
(succesfully) that the CVS export doesn't lose very much information, 
but an argument can be made that any information loss is too much. After 
all, the information I am talking about is simply what was put into the 
system by the developers in the first place.

-Tupshin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-14 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-14 17:21 RFC - tarball/patch server in BitKeeper Larry McVoy
2003-12-14 23:05 ` Keith Owens
2003-12-14 23:44   ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15  0:25     ` Keith Owens
2003-12-15  3:47       ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-14 23:17 ` Tupshin Harper [this message]
2003-12-14 23:43   ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15  0:19     ` Tupshin Harper
2003-12-15  3:46       ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15  6:07         ` Tupshin Harper
2003-12-15 16:02           ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15 19:52             ` Tupshin Harper
2003-12-15  6:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-15 12:11   ` Sergey Vlasov
2003-12-15 13:27     ` Ben Collins
2003-12-15 16:24       ` Sergey Vlasov
2003-12-15 16:32         ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15 18:31         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-15 18:58           ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15 19:40             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-15 21:44               ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15 22:02                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-15 22:14                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15 22:44                     ` Tupshin Harper
2003-12-15 23:13                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-15 22:36                 ` Tupshin Harper
2003-12-15 22:46                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15 23:08                     ` Tupshin Harper
2003-12-17  4:47                       ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-12-15 15:42   ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-15 15:55     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-15 23:18 ` Chris Frey
2003-12-21 20:02 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-21 20:46   ` John Bradford
2003-12-24  1:49   ` Larry McVoy

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