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From: Vladimir Kondratiev <vladimir.kondratiev@intel.com>
To: Dan Hopper <ku4nf@austin.rr.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PCI Express support for 2.4 kernel
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:14:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FE09D22.2080206@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031217174427.GA31730@obiwan.dummynet>

Dan,

all your statements are correct. Indeed, all PCI devices works without 
extra knowledge about PCI-E.
 I have nothing to add.
Vladimir.

Dan Hopper wrote:

>Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> remarked:
>  
>
>>On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>For the record: PCI Express is _not_ PCI-X.
>>>      
>>>
>>Ok, but "PCI Express" is too damn long to write, so we'll have to have 
>>_some_ sane name for it without typing for half an hour.
>>    
>>
>
>FWIW, "PCI-E" is in common use in these parts.
>
>Also, wrt the config space backward compatibility issue, it is my
>understanding that the PCI-E root complex and PCI-E devices can be
>enumerated and used successfully with no software changes, within
>the constraints of PCI.  The BIOS or OS should be able to enumerate
>devices, probe BARs and assign resources, perform basic error
>handling, etc. without any PCI-E-specific changes. 
>
>The hardware is required to be able to initialize PCI-E links, set
>things up to sane states, and so forth without software assistance
>in order to make this magic happen.  It would be interesting to hear
>from Vladimir as to whether or not this is happening with his PCI-E
>test system.
>
>Having said all that, it's obviously preferable to end up with
>native OS and BIOS support for the PCI-E extended configuration
>space, extra error reporting mechanisms, etc.  Native PCI-E devices
>hanging off the bus somewhere might not work (or, at least, work
>well) with an OS that doesn't grok the PCI-E extensions.  
>
>Dan
>  
>


  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-17 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-14 20:00 PCI Express support for 2.4 kernel Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-14 20:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15 10:01   ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 10:31     ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-12-15 12:44       ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 13:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-15 13:58           ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 14:31             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-15 14:44             ` Brian Gerst
2003-12-15 18:40             ` Greg KH
2003-12-15 19:23             ` Alan Cox
2003-12-15 20:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-16 10:20               ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-16 16:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  6:30                   ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17  6:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  6:55                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-17  7:24                         ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 16:17                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  8:22                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-17 10:35                           ` Martin Mares
2003-12-17 23:06                           ` Alan Cox
2003-12-17 10:08                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-17 15:54                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 16:14                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-17 17:44                           ` Dan Hopper
2003-12-17 18:14                             ` Vladimir Kondratiev [this message]
2003-12-17 21:44                         ` Martin Mares
2003-12-16 17:10                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-16 17:48                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-16 17:55                     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-16 22:39                     ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17  0:12                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-16 21:59                   ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-16 17:45                 ` Greg KH
2003-12-16 22:14                   ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 10:05                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-15 15:57       ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 10:42     ` Martin Mares
2003-12-15 10:07 ` Greg KH
2003-12-15 11:20   ` Vladimir Kondratiev
     [not found] <12InT-wQ-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <135Nw-5gv-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <137wc-q1-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-15 21:56     ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-15 22:48       ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 23:06         ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-15 23:14         ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-15 20:08 Nakajima, Jun
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0312150917170.32061-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2003-12-15 15:52 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 16:08   ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-12-15 16:38     ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 16:55       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 17:08         ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 18:03           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 18:15             ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 18:35               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 18:43                 ` Keith Owens
2003-12-15 18:45                 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 17:24         ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 17:22           ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-12-15 18:16           ` Greg KH
2003-12-15 18:20           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 17:09   ` Keith Owens
2003-12-15 17:38     ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 18:16       ` Keith Owens
2003-12-15 18:23         ` Tomas Szepe
     [not found] <12KJ6-4F2-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <12Lvu-5X5-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <12XQ2-7Vs-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-15 10:17     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]     ` <12YsA-nt-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <130kQ-3A0-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <130Xy-4Ia-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]             ` <137cD-8eg-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <13kD2-1kF-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-16 17:44                 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                 ` <13r1S-3FB-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <13vyg-43O-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-16 22:18                     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                 ` <13qIi-31G-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <13DvZ-2RY-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                     ` <13DFw-3a8-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                       ` <13DPq-3s4-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                         ` <13Fem-6iy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                           ` <13SY1-35z-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-17 23:22                             ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-17 23:38                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found] ` <12XQc-7Vs-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <12Z5u-1tG-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-15 14:58     ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-15 15:40       ` Vladimir Kondratiev
     [not found] <3FDCA569.5070006@pobox.com>
2003-12-15  4:47 ` Pete Zaitcev
2003-12-14 17:28 Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15  7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-15 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-15 20:03   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15 22:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-16  4:53       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15 20:21   ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 20:36     ` Jeff Garzik

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