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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:57:40 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FE7AF24.40600@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200312231342.56724.kernel@kolivas.org>



Con Kolivas wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:36, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>Con Kolivas wrote:
>>
>>>I discussed this with Ingo and that's the sort of thing we thought of.
>>>Perhaps a relative crossover of 10 dynamic priorities and an absolute
>>>crossover of 5 static priorities before things got queued together. This
>>>is really only required for the UP HT case.
>>>
>>Well I guess it would still be nice for "SMP HT" as well. Hopefully the
>>code can be generic enough that it would just carry over nicely. 
>>
>
>I disagree. I can't think of a real world scenario where 2+ physical cpus 
>would benefit from this.
>

Well its the same problem. A nice -20 process can still lose 40-55% of its
performance to a nice 19 process, a figure of 10% is probably too high and
we'd really want it <= 5% like what happens with a single logical processor.

>
>>It does 
>>have complications though because the load balancer would have to be taught
>>about it, and those architectures that do hardware priorities probably
>>don't even want it.
>>
>
>Probably the simple relative/absolute will have to suffice. However it still 
>doesn't help the fact that running something cpu bound concurrently at nice 0 
>with something interactive nice 0 is actually slower if you use a UP HT 
>processor in SMP mode instead of UP.
>

It will be based on dynamic priorities, possibly with some feedback from
nice as well, but it probably still won't be perfect and it will probably
be very complex *cough* hardware priorities *cough* ;)

I might try to fit it into a more general priority balancing system because
we currently have similar sorts of failings on regular SMP as well.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-23  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23  0:38 [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  1:24   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  2:42       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  2:57         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-12-23  3:15           ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  3:16             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:03               ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-23 15:51           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-23 22:09             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:35               ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:10     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-26 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-26 23:42   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:49     ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-27 11:09     ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27 11:15       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:29         ` bill davidsen
2003-12-29  7:02       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-29 12:49         ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27  8:52   ` Mika Penttilä
2003-12-30  0:32     ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:05   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-02 20:56     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-02 21:10       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-02 23:34         ` Davide Libenzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23  1:59 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23  2:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  5:33 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23 10:13 ` Nick Piggin

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