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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:02:37 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FEFD18D.3070608@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031227110903.GA1413@elf.ucw.cz>



Pavel Machek wrote:

>Hi!
>
>
>>>BTW this is going to be an issue even on normal (non-HT)
>>>systems. Imagine memory-bound scientific task on CPU0 and nice -20
>>>memory-bound seti&home at CPU1. Even without hyperthreading, your
>>>scientific task is going to run at 50% of speed and seti&home is going
>>>to get second half. Oops.
>>>
>>>Something similar can happen with disk, but we are moving out of
>>>cpu-scheduler arena with that.
>>>
>>>[I do not have SMP nearby to demonstrate it, anybody wanting to
>>>benchmark a bit?]
>>>
>>This is definitely the case but there is one huge difference. If you have 
>>2x1Ghz non HT processors then the fastest a single threaded task can run is 
>>at 1Ghz. If you have 1x2Ghz HT processor the fastest a single threaded task 
>>can run is 2Ghz. 
>>
>
>Well, gigaherz is not the *only* important thing.
>
>On 2x1GHz, 2GB/sec RAM bandwidth, fastest a single threaded task can
>run is 1GHz, 2GB/sec. If you run two of them, it is 1GHz,
>*1*GB/sec. So you still have effect similar to hyperthreading. And
>yes, it can be measured.
>

Hi Pavel,
Sure this might be a real problem sometimes, but I don't see the
CPU scheduler ever handling it unless we want to add a few kitchen
sinks to its nice lean code as well.

If the need really arises, then probably a userspace daemon could
do it.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-29  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23  0:38 [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  1:24   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  2:42       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  2:57         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  3:15           ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  3:16             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:03               ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-23 15:51           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-23 22:09             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:35               ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:10     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-26 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-26 23:42   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:49     ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-27 11:09     ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27 11:15       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:29         ` bill davidsen
2003-12-29  7:02       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-12-29 12:49         ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27  8:52   ` Mika Penttilä
2003-12-30  0:32     ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:05   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-02 20:56     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-02 21:10       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-02 23:34         ` Davide Libenzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23  1:59 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23  2:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  5:33 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23 10:13 ` Nick Piggin

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