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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Mike Waychison <Michael.Waychison@Sun.COM>
Cc: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
	Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
	autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>,
	"Ogden, Aaron A." <aogden@unocal.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:57:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FFF07B2.70801@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FFF03EA.4060603@sun.com>

Mike Waychison wrote:
>>
>> Special vfsmount mounted somewhere; has no superblock associated with it;
>> attempt to step on it triggers event; normal result of that event is to
>> get a normal mount on top of it, at which point usual chaining logics
>> will make sure that we don't see the trap until it's uncovered by removal
>> of covering filesystem.  Trap (and everything mounted on it, etc.) can
>> be removed by normal lazy umount.
>>
>> Basically, it's a single-point analog of autofs done entirely in VFS.
>> The job of automounter is to maintain the traps and react to events.
>>
> Is there any clear advantage to doing this in the VFS other than saving
> a superblock and a dentry/inode pair or two?
> 
> I remember talking to you about this, and I seem to recall that these
> mount traps would probably communicate using a struct file, so a
> trap-user would somehow receive events about when the trap was set
> off.   Will this communication model continue to work within a cloned
> namespace?  What happens if the trap-client closes the file?
> 

The biggest issue is to ensure that the appropriate atomicity guarantees
can be maintained.  In particular, it must be possible to umount the
underlying filesystem and all mount traps on top of it atomically.
Anything less will result in race conditions.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-09 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-06 22:28 [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 22:41 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-06 22:47 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:53 ` Paul Raines
2004-01-07 23:14 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-07 23:32   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 12:52     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:31       ` viro
2004-01-09 18:43         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 19:41         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 19:57           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2004-01-09 21:31             ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:36               ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-08 19:32 trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 19:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 20:08   ` trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 21:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 22:20       ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-01-08 22:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 20:37       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:02         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:52           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:16   ` Mike Waychison
     [not found] <1b5GC-29h-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1b6CO-3v0-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-07  4:21   ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-07 17:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:04       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 21:11         ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-07 23:40           ` Jesper Juhl
2004-01-07 21:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-07 23:47           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 23:56             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-12 16:57               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  7:39                 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-06 23:34 Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 23:47 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 19:55 Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:01 ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 21:44   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:50   ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:06     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:17       ` Tim Hockin
     [not found]       ` <20040106221502.GA7398@hockin.org>
2004-01-06 22:20         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 16:19           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 17:55             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:13               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 21:14 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-07 22:55   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:00     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 15:39       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:20         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:06           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-10  5:43             ` Ian Kent
2004-01-12 13:07               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 16:01                 ` raven
2004-01-12 16:26                   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 22:50                     ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-12 23:28                       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  1:30                       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-12 16:28                   ` raven
2004-01-12 16:58                     ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  1:54                       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-13 19:01                         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-14 15:58                           ` raven
2004-01-13 18:46                   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:51           ` Jim Carter
2004-01-10  5:56             ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 17:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 19:41         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 23:42         ` Michael Clark
2004-01-09 20:28           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:54             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:43               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:32         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:52           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-10  6:05             ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:29     ` Olivier Galibert
2004-01-08 13:20       ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-08 16:23       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:35     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 13:08       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:20     ` Jim Carter
2004-01-08 21:01       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08  0:48   ` Ian Kent

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