kernel 2.6.1 synaptics problems tapping and tap'n'drag

kernel 2.6.1 synaptics problems tapping and tap'n'drag

[Jon Westgate]

Hi,
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but if I run 2.6.1
I get mouse problems that I didn't get with 2.6.0
I'm running a compaq m300 (600MHz PIII) with a synaptics touch pad.

In 2.6.0 there was an option to include or not include support for the 
synaptics touchpad (I found that my touchpad worked just fine with that 
option unchecked) in 2.6.1 that option is nolonger there.

In 2.6.1 I find that the operation of the mouse is very erratic its 
almost impossible to take your finger off the pad without the cursor 
moving, Tapping doesn't work, The pad seems very accelerated (ie you 
drag your finger a short distance and the cursor is at the other side of 
the screen before you know it), Lastly if you dragged your finger to the 
edge of the pad it used to continue on smoothly. This no longer works.

My question is:
Is there a command line or append option I can put in lilo.conf to 
prevent the synaptics driver from trying to reprogram my touchpad? I 
quite like its default behavior. There is definatly something trying to 
reprogram it as I have to turn off my laptop for it's behavior to return 
to normal. Even if I reset it still needs a power cycle to fix it.
dmesg says my touchpad is this:
input: PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio4

I'm not running any special drivers or settings in XF86Config
I just have /dev/input/mice setup with protocol set as ImPS/2

Regards
Jon Westgate

Re: kernel 2.6.1 synaptics problems tapping and tap'n'drag

[Marcos D. Marado Torres]

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You just have to pass "proto=imps" to the kernel...

Mind Booster Noori

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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Jon Westgate wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but if I run 2.6.1
> I get mouse problems that I didn't get with 2.6.0
> I'm running a compaq m300 (600MHz PIII) with a synaptics touch pad.
>
> In 2.6.0 there was an option to include or not include support for the
> synaptics touchpad (I found that my touchpad worked just fine with that
> option unchecked) in 2.6.1 that option is nolonger there.
>
> In 2.6.1 I find that the operation of the mouse is very erratic its
> almost impossible to take your finger off the pad without the cursor
> moving, Tapping doesn't work, The pad seems very accelerated (ie you
> drag your finger a short distance and the cursor is at the other side of
> the screen before you know it), Lastly if you dragged your finger to the
> edge of the pad it used to continue on smoothly. This no longer works.
>
> My question is:
> Is there a command line or append option I can put in lilo.conf to
> prevent the synaptics driver from trying to reprogram my touchpad? I
> quite like its default behavior. There is definatly something trying to
> reprogram it as I have to turn off my laptop for it's behavior to return
> to normal. Even if I reset it still needs a power cycle to fix it.
> dmesg says my touchpad is this:
> input: PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio4
>
> I'm not running any special drivers or settings in XF86Config
> I just have /dev/input/mice setup with protocol set as ImPS/2
>
> Regards
> Jon Westgate
>
>
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Re: kernel 2.6.1 synaptics problems tapping and tap'n'drag

[Marcos D. Marado Torres]

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Sorry, in the previously e-mail I was wrong:

You have to pass to the kernel:

"psmouse_proto=imps" or "psmouse.psmouse_proto=imps", depending on if you have
the psmouse support as module or built-in in the kernel.

Hoping that helps,
Mind Booster Noori

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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Jon Westgate wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but if I run 2.6.1
> I get mouse problems that I didn't get with 2.6.0
> I'm running a compaq m300 (600MHz PIII) with a synaptics touch pad.
>
> In 2.6.0 there was an option to include or not include support for the
> synaptics touchpad (I found that my touchpad worked just fine with that
> option unchecked) in 2.6.1 that option is nolonger there.
>
> In 2.6.1 I find that the operation of the mouse is very erratic its
> almost impossible to take your finger off the pad without the cursor
> moving, Tapping doesn't work, The pad seems very accelerated (ie you
> drag your finger a short distance and the cursor is at the other side of
> the screen before you know it), Lastly if you dragged your finger to the
> edge of the pad it used to continue on smoothly. This no longer works.
>
> My question is:
> Is there a command line or append option I can put in lilo.conf to
> prevent the synaptics driver from trying to reprogram my touchpad? I
> quite like its default behavior. There is definatly something trying to
> reprogram it as I have to turn off my laptop for it's behavior to return
> to normal. Even if I reset it still needs a power cycle to fix it.
> dmesg says my touchpad is this:
> input: PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio4
>
> I'm not running any special drivers or settings in XF86Config
> I just have /dev/input/mice setup with protocol set as ImPS/2
>
> Regards
> Jon Westgate
>
>
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Re: kernel 2.6.1 synaptics problems tapping and tap'n'drag

[Jon Westgate]

Thanks for that Marcos,
appending "psmouse.psmouse_proto=imps" in lilo.conf has returned my 
mouse to is usual self.
You are a star :)
I do seem to remember when I ran another well known os on this laptop 
that the mouse worked much better without the drivers installed.
I'm sure that the kernel driver probably works much better on new 
hardware and that some folk have put allot of hard work into the kernel 
and X driver. I think its very cool that with the X driver you can have 
non-linear settings left and right tappings as well as scroll bars etc. 
But I must be getting old because I also like the simple way it just 
works without a driver.

Regards
Jon Westgate


Marcos D. Marado Torres wrote:

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>Sorry, in the previously e-mail I was wrong:
>
>You have to pass to the kernel:
>
>"psmouse_proto=imps" or "psmouse.psmouse_proto=imps", depending on if you have
>the psmouse support as module or built-in in the kernel.
>
>Hoping that helps,
>Mind Booster Noori
>
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>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Jon Westgate wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but if I run 2.6.1
>>I get mouse problems that I didn't get with 2.6.0
>>I'm running a compaq m300 (600MHz PIII) with a synaptics touch pad.
>>
>>In 2.6.0 there was an option to include or not include support for the
>>synaptics touchpad (I found that my touchpad worked just fine with that
>>option unchecked) in 2.6.1 that option is nolonger there.
>>
>>In 2.6.1 I find that the operation of the mouse is very erratic its
>>almost impossible to take your finger off the pad without the cursor
>>moving, Tapping doesn't work, The pad seems very accelerated (ie you
>>drag your finger a short distance and the cursor is at the other side of
>>the screen before you know it), Lastly if you dragged your finger to the
>>edge of the pad it used to continue on smoothly. This no longer works.
>>
>>My question is:
>>Is there a command line or append option I can put in lilo.conf to
>>prevent the synaptics driver from trying to reprogram my touchpad? I
>>quite like its default behavior. There is definatly something trying to
>>reprogram it as I have to turn off my laptop for it's behavior to return
>>to normal. Even if I reset it still needs a power cycle to fix it.
>>dmesg says my touchpad is this:
>>input: PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio4
>>
>>I'm not running any special drivers or settings in XF86Config
>>I just have /dev/input/mice setup with protocol set as ImPS/2
>>
>>Regards
>>Jon Westgate
>>
>>
>>-
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>>the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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>>Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
>>
>>    
>>
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Re: kernel 2.6.1 synaptics problems tapping and tap'n'drag

[Vojtech Pavlik]

On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 11:04:30PM +0000, Jon Westgate wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but if I run 2.6.1
> I get mouse problems that I didn't get with 2.6.0
> I'm running a compaq m300 (600MHz PIII) with a synaptics touch pad.
> 
> In 2.6.0 there was an option to include or not include support for the 
> synaptics touchpad (I found that my touchpad worked just fine with that 
> option unchecked) in 2.6.1 that option is nolonger there.
> 
> In 2.6.1 I find that the operation of the mouse is very erratic its 
> almost impossible to take your finger off the pad without the cursor 
> moving, Tapping doesn't work, The pad seems very accelerated (ie you 
> drag your finger a short distance and the cursor is at the other side of 
> the screen before you know it), Lastly if you dragged your finger to the 
> edge of the pad it used to continue on smoothly. This no longer works.
> 
> My question is:
> Is there a command line or append option I can put in lilo.conf to 
> prevent the synaptics driver from trying to reprogram my touchpad? I 
> quite like its default behavior. There is definatly something trying to 
> reprogram it as I have to turn off my laptop for it's behavior to return 
> to normal. Even if I reset it still needs a power cycle to fix it.
> dmesg says my touchpad is this:
> input: PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio4
> 
> I'm not running any special drivers or settings in XF86Config
> I just have /dev/input/mice setup with protocol set as ImPS/2

The default simple backward-compatibility mousedev module doesn't
support taps and drags. You need the XFree86 synaptics driver from
http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html. It'll work
together with the in-kernel driver and give you all the features the pad
has.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR