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From: jalvo@mbay.net (John Alvord)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Not a typewriter
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 04:18:45 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b03b94c.77856647@mail.mbay.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86256A49.00589003.00@smtpnotes.altec.com>
In-Reply-To: <86256A49.00589003.00@smtpnotes.altec.com>

On Fri, 11 May 2001 11:07:45 -0500, Wayne.Brown@altec.com wrote:

>
>
>On 05/10/2001 at 06:20:34 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
>

>My point is that someone who sees the "typewriter" message and doesn't
>understand it will have to dig a bit to find out what it means.  Finding it
>almost certainly will involve uncovering some of the history and folklore of
>Unix.  In the "Intro to Unix" classes I've taught over the years, I've always
>made a point of explaining the background of things like this -- such as the
>relation of grep to the g/re/p expression of ed, ex and vi; where biff got its
>name; what the letters stand for in awk; why creat doesn't end in an "e;" and so
>forth.  I tell the class that Unix has quirky, eccentric, whimsical elements
>because many of the things in it were written by quirky, eccentric, or whimsical
>people.  The comment at the bottom of some versions of the tunefs man page (such
>as the HP-UX version) is an example I like to use:  "You can tune a file system,
>but you can't tune a fish."  I tell them they'll understand the Unix way of
>thinking faster if they approach it with an inquisitive, playful spirit rather
>than as a stuffy business system.  It's supposed to be correct; it's supposed to
>be efficient; but it's also supposed to be fun, and sometimes the fun is worth
>sacrificing a little of the other qualities in trivial areas.
>
>I guess what I'm trying to say is that "Life With Unix" should be required
>reading for anyone who goes near a Unix (or Linux) system.

David N. Smith, an IBM researcher, wrote that we should preserve the
past for the criticism of the future.

john alvord

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-12  4:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-11 16:07 Not a typewriter Wayne.Brown
2001-05-11 17:03 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-05-11 21:43 ` Hacksaw
2001-05-13 23:39   ` Mike A. Harris
2001-05-12  4:18 ` John Alvord [this message]
2001-05-13 23:35 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-05-14  1:03   ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-14 14:31     ` John Kodis
2001-05-14 15:33       ` Not a typewriterg Michael Meissner
2001-05-14 15:25     ` Not a typewriter Michael Meissner
2001-05-14 17:01       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 17:16         ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-14 17:29         ` Jesse Pollard
2001-05-14 18:04           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14  1:31   ` Jonathan Lundell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-14  2:59 Wayne.Brown
2001-05-11 23:57 Bingner Sam J. Contractor RSIS
2001-05-11 23:18 Wayne.Brown
2001-05-14 22:22 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-11 18:37 Wayne.Brown
2001-05-10 23:06 Wayne.Brown
2001-05-10 23:20 ` Hacksaw
2001-05-10 23:52   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-11  0:07     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-11  2:01       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-11  9:21         ` Malcolm Beattie
2001-05-11  0:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-11  1:31   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-11  1:32     ` Blue Lang
2001-05-11  9:31       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-11 12:25   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-05-11  9:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 14:01 ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-05-10 21:42 Richard B. Johnson
2001-05-10 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-11  7:22 ` Tom Leete

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