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From: Miko Larsson <mikoxyzzz@gmail.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] x86: Use `get_random_u8' for kernel stack offset randomization
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:01:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3bccbead128d5bbc699cd092b79bf8d61e6cb373.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2301302011150.55843@angie.orcam.me.uk>

On Mon, 2023-01-30 at 21:30 +0000, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> For x86 kernel stack offset randomization uses the RDTSC instruction,
> which according to H. Peter Anvin is not a secure source of entropy:
> 
> "RDTSC isn't a super fast instruction either, but what is *way* more
> significant is that this use of RDTSC is NOT safe: in certain power
> states
> it may very well be that stone number of lower bits of TSC contain no
> entropy at all."
> 
> It also causes an invalid opcode exception with hardware that does
> not 
> implement this instruction:
> 
> process '/sbin/init' started with executable stack
> invalid opcode: 0000 [#1]
> CPU: 0 PID: 1 Comm: init Not tainted 6.1.0-rc4+ #1
> EIP: exit_to_user_mode_prepare+0x90/0xe1
> Code: 30 02 00 75 ad 0f ba e3 16 73 05 e8 a7 a5 fc ff 0f ba e3 0e 73
> 05 e8 3e af fc ff a1 c4 c6 51 c0 85 c0 7e 13 8b 0d ac 01 53 c0 <0f>
> 31 0f b6 c0 31 c1 89 0d ac 01 53 c0 83 3d 30 ed 62 c0 00 75 33
> EAX: 00000001 EBX: 00004000 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 000004ff
> ESI: c10253c0 EDI: 00000000 EBP: c1027f98 ESP: c1027f8c
> DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 0000 GS: 0000 SS: 0068 EFLAGS: 00010002
> CR0: 80050033 CR2: bfe8659b CR3: 012e0000 CR4: 00000000
> Call Trace:
>  ? rest_init+0x72/0x72
>  syscall_exit_to_user_mode+0x15/0x27
>  ret_from_fork+0x10/0x30
> EIP: 0xb7f74800
> Code: Unable to access opcode bytes at 0xb7f747d6.
> EAX: 00000000 EBX: 00000000 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00000000
> ESI: 00000000 EDI: 00000000 EBP: 00000000 ESP: bfe864b0
> DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 0000 GS: 0000 SS: 007b EFLAGS: 00000200
> ---[ end trace 0000000000000000 ]---
> EIP: exit_to_user_mode_prepare+0x90/0xe1
> Code: 30 02 00 75 ad 0f ba e3 16 73 05 e8 a7 a5 fc ff 0f ba e3 0e 73
> 05 e8 3e af fc ff a1 c4 c6 51 c0 85 c0 7e 13 8b 0d ac 01 53 c0 <0f>
> 31 0f b6 c0 31 c1 89 0d ac 01 53 c0 83 3d 30 ed 62 c0 00 75 33
> EAX: 00000001 EBX: 00004000 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 000004ff
> ESI: c10253c0 EDI: 00000000 EBP: c1027f98 ESP: c1027f8c
> DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 0000 GS: 0000 SS: 0068 EFLAGS: 00010002
> CR0: 80050033 CR2: b7f747d6 CR3: 012e0000 CR4: 00000000
> Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception
> 
> Therefore switch to our generic entropy source and use
> `get_random_u8' 
> instead, which according to Jason A. Donenfeld is supposed to be fast
> enough:
> 
> "Generally it's very very fast, as most cases wind up being only a
> memcpy -- in this case, a single byte copy. So by and large it should
> be suitable. It's fast enough now that most networking things are
> able
> to use it. And lots of other places where you'd want really high
> performance. So I'd expect it's okay to use here too. And if it is
> too
> slow, we should figure out how to make it faster. But I don't suspect
> it'll be too slow."
> 
> Signed-off-by: Maciej W. Rozycki <macro@orcam.me.uk>
> Suggested-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>
> Fixes: fe950f602033 ("x86/entry: Enable random_kstack_offset
> support")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org # v5.13+
> ---
> Changes from v2:
> 
> - Use `get_random_u8' rather than `rdtsc', universally; update the
> heading 
>   (was: "x86: Disable kernel stack offset randomization for !TSC")
> and the 
>   description accordingly.
> 
> - As a security concern mark for backporting.
> 
> Changes from v1:
> 
> - Disable randomization at run time rather than in configuration.
> ---
>  arch/x86/include/asm/entry-common.h |    3 ++-
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> linux-x86-randomize-kstack-offset-random-u8.diff
> Index: linux-macro/arch/x86/include/asm/entry-common.h
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-macro.orig/arch/x86/include/asm/entry-common.h
> +++ linux-macro/arch/x86/include/asm/entry-common.h
> @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
>  #ifndef _ASM_X86_ENTRY_COMMON_H
>  #define _ASM_X86_ENTRY_COMMON_H
>  
> +#include <linux/random.h>
>  #include <linux/randomize_kstack.h>
>  #include <linux/user-return-notifier.h>
>  
> @@ -85,7 +86,7 @@ static inline void arch_exit_to_user_mod
>          * Therefore, final stack offset entropy will be 5 (x86_64)
> or
>          * 6 (ia32) bits.
>          */
> -       choose_random_kstack_offset(rdtsc() & 0xFF);
> +       choose_random_kstack_offset(get_random_u8());
>  }
>  #define arch_exit_to_user_mode_prepare
> arch_exit_to_user_mode_prepare
>  
Tested-by: Miko Larsson <mikoxyzzz@gmail.com>
-- 
~miko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-31 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-30 21:30 [PATCH v3] x86: Use `get_random_u8' for kernel stack offset randomization Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-01-31 19:34 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2023-01-31 20:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-31 21:01 ` Miko Larsson [this message]
2023-02-12 23:17 ` [PING][PATCH " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-02-13 19:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-14  4:54     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-02-14 20:43       ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-02-22 16:44         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2023-02-13 19:03 ` [PATCH " Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-14  5:12   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-02-14 13:39     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2023-02-22 12:05       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-06-05 15:45         ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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