From: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
freude@de.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
kwankhede@nvidia.com, bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 19/19] s390/facilities: enable AP facilities needed by guest
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:47:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ca67c61-99a1-c47f-2f79-4ca29cc0f4a4@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171205153042.4ce4f096.cohuck@redhat.com>
On 05/12/2017 15:30, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:23:50 +0100
> Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/12/2017 15:04, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 08:52:57 +0100
>>> Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/02/2017 02:30 AM, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I agree with your suggestion that defining a new CPU model feature is probably
>>>>> the best way to resolve this issue. The question is, should we define a single
>>>>> feature indicating whether AP instructions are installed and set features bits
>>>>> for the guest based on whether or not they are set in the linux host, or should
>>>>> we define additional CPU model features for turning features bits on and off?
>>>>> I guess it boils down to what behavior is expected for the AP bus running on
>>>>> the linux guest. Here is a rundown of the facilities bits associated with AP
>>>>> and how they affect the behavior of the AP bus:
>>>>>
>>>>> * STFLE.12 indicates whether the AP query function is available. If this bit
>>>>> is not set, then the AP bus scan will only test domains 0-15. For example,
>>>>> if adapters 4, 5, and 6 and domains 12 and 71 (0x47) are installed, then AP
>>>>> queues 04.0047, 05.0047 and 06.0047 will not be made available.
>>>> STFLE 12 is the indication for Query AP Configuration Information (QCI) available.
>>>>> * STFLE.15 indicates whether the AP facilities test function is available. If
>>>>> this bit is not set, then the CEX4, CEX5 and CEX6 device drivers discovered
>>>>> by the AP bus scan will not get bound to any AP device drivers. Since the
>>>>> AP matrix model supports only CEX4 and greater, no devices will be bound
>>>>> to any driver for a guest.
>>>> This T-Bit extension to the TAPQ subfunction is a must have. When kvm only
>>>> supports CEX4 and upper then this bit could also act as the indicator for
>>>> AP instructions available. Of course if you want to implement pure virtual
>>>> full simulated AP without any real AP hardware on the host this bit can't
>>>> be the indicator.
>>>
>>> It would probably make sense to group these two together. Or is there
>>> any advantage in supporting only a part of it?
>>>
>>>>> * STFLE.65 indicates whether AP interrupts are available. If this bit is not
>>>>> set, then the AP bus will use polling instead of using interrupt handlers
>>>>> to process AP events.
>>>
>>> So, does this indicate "adapter interrupts for AP" only? If so, we
>>> should keep this separate and only enable it when we have the gisa etc.
>>> ready.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, STFLE 65, it is for AP only.
>>
>> QCI, STFLE 12, is no present on older systems, in this case AP uses TAPQ
>> to retrieve information for each AP
>
> Dumb question: How old? Machines that are still supported?
No idea which machine are supported or not, will ask.
What I can say is that I have here a Lpar which does not support QCI.
It seems to be a zEC12.2.
z13 support it.
>
>>
>> So for my point of view, it make sense to separate the three facilities
>> to enable migration on older systems.
>
> OK, if STFLE 12 might not be present (pending my question above), but
> STFLE 15 is indeed a must-have, we should split this up.
>
--
Pierre Morel
Linux/KVM/QEMU in Böblingen - Germany
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-05 14:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-13 17:38 [RFC 00/19] KVM: s390/crypto/vfio: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 01/19] KVM: s390: SIE considerations for AP Queue virtualization Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 11:54 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 19:53 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 02/19] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 12:41 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-14 11:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 15:53 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 03/19] s390/zcrypt: new AP matrix bus Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 8:47 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 15:02 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 11:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 13:19 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 15:54 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 16:07 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 04/19] s390/zcrypt: create an AP matrix device on the " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-18 16:20 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-18 17:54 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 05/19] s390/zcrypt: base implementation of AP matrix device driver Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 8:59 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 15:56 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 12:40 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 16:37 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 17:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 18:15 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-15 10:31 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 12:02 ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 12:35 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 14:25 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:47 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-17 21:13 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-20 17:15 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 14:25 ` Pierre Morel
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 06/19] s390/zcrypt: register matrix device with VFIO mediated device framework Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 9:03 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 16:09 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:14 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:37 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 07/19] KVM: s390: introduce AP matrix configuration interface Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 9:10 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 16:26 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:16 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:41 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 08/19] s390/zcrypt: support for assigning adapters to matrix mdev Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:22 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 23:53 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17 9:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 09/19] s390/zcrypt: validate adapter assignment Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 10/19] s390/zcrypt: sysfs interfaces supporting AP domain assignment Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 11/19] s390/zcrypt: validate " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 12/19] s390/zcrypt: sysfs support for control " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 13/19] s390/zcrypt: validate " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 9:13 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 14/19] KVM: s390: Connect the AP mediated matrix device to KVM Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 15/19] s390/zcrypt: introduce ioctl access to VFIO AP Matrix driver Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 16/19] KVM: s390: interface to configure KVM guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 20:22 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:46 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 17/19] KVM: s390: validate input to AP matrix config interface Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 18/19] KVM: s390: New ioctl to configure KVM guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 18:55 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 19/19] s390/facilities: enable AP facilities needed by guest Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 9:25 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-11-02 12:08 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 12:23 ` Halil Pasic
[not found] ` <af1bb867-f9a0-458b-b7b2-c0bb9456eb7f@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-11-02 15:53 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 18:49 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-03 8:47 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-12-02 1:30 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05 7:52 ` Harald Freudenberger
2017-12-05 14:04 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:23 ` Pierre Morel
2017-12-05 14:30 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:47 ` Pierre Morel [this message]
2017-12-05 15:14 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05 15:01 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-06 9:15 ` Pierre Morel
2017-12-06 10:15 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:14 ` Tony Krowiak
[not found] ` <OF182217F7.6A47A64E-ON002581CD.002BCF58-C12581CD.002D4127@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2017-11-03 8:49 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-16 9:27 ` [RFC 00/19] KVM: s390/crypto/vfio: guest dedicated crypto adapters Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 10:06 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-16 16:30 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 10:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-16 16:27 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-18 16:43 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-29 11:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-30 8:57 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-30 19:04 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-31 19:39 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:57 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:23 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:06 ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 17:03 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 20:25 ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 23:35 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17 7:07 ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-17 10:07 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-17 20:28 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-20 17:13 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-21 16:08 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-22 13:47 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-28 0:39 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05 14:06 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 15:09 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 23:41 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17 9:49 ` Cornelia Huck
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