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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: raymond jennings <highwind747@hotmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [IDEA] - run-length compaction of block numbers
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:47:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40084DFB.5040106@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200401161954.i0GJsEgj003906@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:38:59 PST, raymond jennings <highwind747@hotmail.com>  said:
>  
>
>>Is there any value in creating a new filesystem that encodes long contiguous 
>>blocks as a single block run instead of multiple block numbers?  A long file 
>>may use only a few block runs instead of many block numbers if there is 
>>little fragmentation (usually the case). 
>>
This is already done, they are called "extent"s.  Reiser4 uses them, XFS 
uses them, I think Veritas may have been the first to use them but I am 
not sure of this, maybe it was IBM.

>> Also dynamic allocation of 
>>inodes...etc.
>>
ReiserFS does dynamic allocation of stat data (what stat() returns), we 
don't have inodes.  Many filesystems do dynamic allocation of inodes.

>>  The details are long; anyone interested can e-mail me 
>>privately.
>>    
>>
>
>Only question I have is how you make an efficient scheme for finding the block
>number for an offset several gigabytes into the file.
>
Use a tree to store everything in.  See www.namesys.com for extensive 
details.

>  You either get to run
>through the list linearly (gaak) or you need to stick a tree or hash on the
>front to allow semi-random access to a starting point to scan linearly from, at
>which point you've probably blown any space savings unless you have a VERY low
>fragmentation rate...
>
>On the other hand, dynamic allocation of inodes is interesting, as it means
>you're not screwed if over time, the NBPI value for the filesystem changes (or
>if you simply guessed wrong at mkfs time) and you run out of inodes when you
>still have space free.  Reiserfs V3 already does this, in fact...
>
>  
>
Cheers,

-- 
Hans



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-16 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-16 19:38 [IDEA] - run-length compaction of block numbers raymond jennings
2004-01-16 19:52 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-01-16 19:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-16 20:36   ` Ian Pilcher
2004-01-16 21:57     ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-16 20:47   ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2004-01-16 22:38     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-19 10:45       ` Hans Reiser
2004-01-19 16:20         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-19 17:06           ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-08 11:38           ` Keith Owens
     [not found] <1eI8L-5fS-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-16 20:01 ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-29 16:40 raymond jennings

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