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From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [OT] Redundancy eliminating file systems, breaking MD5, donating money to OSDL
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:59:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4008509B.2060707@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200401162037.i0GKbgWY005453@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>



Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:22:39 EST, Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>  said:
> 
> 
>>Think about it!  If we had a filesystem that actually DID this, and it 
>>was in the Linux kernel, it would spread far and wide.  It's bound to 
>>happen that someone will identify a collision.  We then report that to 
>>the committee offering the reward and then donate it to OSDL to help 
>>Linux development.
> 
> 
> Actually, it's *not* "bound to happen".  Figure out the number of blocks you'd
> need to have even a 1% chance of a birthday collision in a 2**128 space.
> 
> And you'd need that many disk blocks on *a single system*.
> 
> Then figure out the chances of a collision on a small machine that only has 20
> or 30 terabytes (yes, in this case terabytes is small).

Certainly.  No one machine is going to find it in a reasonable period. 
OTOH, if a million machines were doing it, it increases the chances by 
just that much.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-16 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-16 20:22 [OT] Redundancy eliminating file systems, breaking MD5, donating money to OSDL Timothy Miller
2004-01-16 20:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-16 20:59   ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2004-01-17 13:15     ` Bart Samwel
2004-01-20 19:21       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-01-21 11:46         ` Bart Samwel
2004-01-22  0:12         ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-22  8:29           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-01-22  2:36         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-01-22  8:51           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-20 18:06 Clayton Weaver

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