From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@au1.ibm.com>,
vatsa@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org, rml@tech9.net
Subject: Re: CPU Hotplug: Hotplug Script And SIGPWR
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:37:48 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <400CE8DC.70307@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040120082943.GA15733@hockin.org>
Tim Hockin wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 07:14:12PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>>Under what conditions? Not arbitrary entropy, surely. If a hotplug script
>>>is present and does not blow up, it should be safe to assume it will be run
>>>upon an event being delivered. If not, we have a WAY bigger problem :)
>>>
>>>
>>That assumption is not safe. The main problems are of course process limits
>>and memory allocation failure.
>>
>
>If root has a process limit that make hotplug scripts fail to run, then
>we're hosed in a lot of ways. And if we fail to allocate memory, there
>really ought to be some retry or something. It seems to me that a failure
>to run a hotplug script is a BAD THING.
>
(or OOM killed being another that comes to mind)
It is sometimes inevitable. With that knowledge we should be designing
for graceful failure.
>
>>>Sending it a SIGPWR means you have to run it on a different CPU that it was
>>>affined to, which is already a violation.
>>>
>>At least the task has the option to handle the problem.
>>
>
>But it is a violation of the affinity. As the kernel we CAN NOT know what
>the affinity really means.
>
Not if the application is designed to handle it. How would hotplug
scripts make this any different, anyway?
> Maybe there is some way for a task to indicate
>it would like to receive SIGPWR in that case. Or some other signal. Can we
>invent new signals?
>
>That way a task that KNOWS about the CPU disappearing underneath it can be
>wise, while everything else will not just get killed.
>
Rusty thought you just wouldn't send it unless the process was handling
it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-20 8:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20040116174446.A2820@in.ibm.com>
2004-01-20 5:44 ` CPU Hotplug: Hotplug Script And SIGPWR Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 6:33 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 6:43 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 6:52 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 7:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 7:30 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 7:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 7:54 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 8:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 8:29 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 8:37 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-01-20 8:43 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 4:06 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-21 5:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21 7:08 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 15:07 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-01-22 5:29 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-21 7:09 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 7:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-21 7:42 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 8:11 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-21 5:07 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 8:41 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-01-20 8:49 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 9:12 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 0:00 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 23:51 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 7:45 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 8:37 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 9:29 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21 0:12 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] <fa.f37o48p.1io5q5@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.frjqvfo.170g8hq@ifi.uio.no>
2004-01-20 17:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-01-21 4:33 ` Rusty Russell
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