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From: Bart Samwel <bart@samwel.tk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: felix-kernel@fefe.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Request: I/O request recording
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:50:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4014FF00.1020106@samwel.tk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040125153803.4d7e1015.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> Bart Samwel <bart@samwel.tk> wrote:
> 
>>>Linux caches disk data on a per-file basis.  So if you preload pagecache
>>>via the /dev/hda1 "file", that is of no benefit to the /etc/passwd file. 
>>>Each one has its own unique pagecache.  When reading pages for /etc/passwd
>>>we don't go looking for the same disk blocks in the cache of /dev/hda1.
>>>
>>>Which is why the userspace cache preloading needs to know the pathnames of
>>>all the relevant files - it needs to open and read each one, applying
>>>knowledge of disk layout while doing it.
>>
>>Hmmm, that explains why this didn't work. :( So if I wanted to do this 
>>completely from user space using only block_dump data I'd probably have 
>>to go through all files and find out if they had any blocks in common 
>>with my preload set -- presuming there is a way to find that out, which 
>>there probably isn't. That  makes this idea pretty much useless, I'm 
>>sorry to have bothered you with it.
> 
> You could certainly do that.  Given disk block #N you need to search all
> files on the disk asking "who owns this block".  The FIBMAP ioctl can be
> used on most filesystems (ext2, ext3, others..) to find out which blocks a
> file is using.   See bmap.c in
> 
> http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/ext3-tools.tar.gz
> 
> Unfortunately you cannot determine a directory's blocks in this way. 
> Ext3's directories live in the /dev/hda1 pagecache anyway.  ext2's
> directories each have their own pagecache.

I found out two things while trying to do this:

1. Many filesystems in linux set f_fsid to zero for statfs. I was trying 
to use this to skip over mount points, but that doesn't work. Had to use 
the st_dev field from stat instead. :(

2. Swapfiles apparently don't like to be touched. I did an 
ioctl(FIGETBSZ) on a swapfile, and it would simply block until I did a 
swapoff on the file. I didn't even get to the FIBMAP part. :( Is this 
correct behaviour? And is there any way to detect this so that I can 
work around it?

-- Bart

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-26 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-24 18:10 Request: I/O request recording Felix von Leitner
2004-01-24 18:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-24 18:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-01-24 19:25   ` Ville Herva
2004-01-24 22:43     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-01-24 20:11 ` Diego Calleja
2004-01-24 21:09   ` Ville Herva
2004-01-24 23:35 ` Andrew Morton
2004-01-24 23:53   ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-25  0:03     ` Andrew Morton
2004-01-25  0:09       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-25  0:04     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-25  0:10       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-25 12:26     ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-01-25 22:59   ` Bart Samwel
2004-01-25 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2004-01-25 23:29       ` Bart Samwel
2004-01-25 23:38         ` Andrew Morton
2004-01-26  0:23           ` Diego Calleja García
2004-01-26  0:32             ` Andrew Morton
2004-01-26 11:50           ` Bart Samwel [this message]
2004-01-26 11:57             ` Andrew Morton
2004-01-27 19:13           ` Bart Samwel

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