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From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>,
	chakkerz@optusnet.com.au,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [OT] Crazy idea:  Design open-source graphics chip
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:03:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <401E82D3.9070705@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0402011123140.20933@waterleaf.sonytel.be>



Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Timothy Miller wrote:
> 
>>John Bradford wrote:
>>
>>>>The real question we have to ask ourselves is, what would be the market
>>>>demand for a graphics card that is 3 generations behind the state of the
>>>>art and over-priced, the only advantage being that it's a 100% open
>>>>architecture?
>>>
>>>
>>>Err, well there are always the server and embedded markets, if the
>>>device was cheap enough.
>>
>>Ah, but it won't be.  Low-volume ASICs are expensive.  The chip itself
>>would probably be around $150, not counting $100k NRE.  Then you have to
>>pay for the board, make up for the NRE, and make some profit to make it
>>worth while.  How much are YOU willing to pay?
> 
> 
> Then why are companies doing ASICs with an OpenRISC core?

I don't see how that relates.  And to answer your question, maybe 
because there's a demand for it.  I don't know.

> 
> 
>>Whatever we design is going to be EXPENSIVE.  So, regardless of the fact
>>that an ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 9000 is over-powered for job you
>>describe, that board will be cheaper than what we could produce.
> 
> 
> And it's probably overpowered when speaking about power consumption, too...
> 
> Now think of a SoC with an OpenRISC core and an integrated graphics
> controller...
> 

That would be cool.  :)


  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-02 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-28 17:34 [OT] Crazy idea: Design open-source graphics chip Timothy Miller
2004-01-29  1:11 ` Christian Unger
2004-01-29 15:59   ` Stephen Smoogen
2004-01-29 16:07     ` Maciej Soltysiak
2004-01-29 16:21     ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 16:13   ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 16:29     ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 16:52       ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 17:18         ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 17:47           ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 18:55             ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 19:11               ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 21:36                 ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 21:36                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 10:36                 ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-30 17:02                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 17:20                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-01-30 17:40                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 18:11                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-01-30 18:21                           ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 19:09                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-01-30 21:09                         ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-30 21:23                           ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-31 17:32                             ` John Bradford
2004-01-31 18:39                             ` Roland Dreier
2004-01-30 17:23                     ` Måns Rullgård
2004-01-30 17:44                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 19:01                     ` John Bradford
2004-01-30 21:19                     ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-01 10:36                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-01 11:06                   ` John Bradford
2004-02-01 11:46                     ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-01 22:41                   ` Christian Unger
2004-02-02 17:13                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-02 17:11                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-01-30 16:54               ` Jesse Pollard
2004-02-01 10:35         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-02 17:03           ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2004-01-29 16:30     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-01-29 16:58       ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 18:08         ` Frank Gevaerts
2004-01-30 22:35           ` Esben Stien
2004-01-29 18:06     ` Torrey Hoffman
2004-01-29 18:58       ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-31 18:41     ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-31 18:15 ` Tomas Zvala
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-01 14:58 DaMouse Networks
2004-02-02 17:16 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-02 17:37   ` DaMouse Networks
2004-02-02 18:45     ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-02 19:43       ` DaMouse Networks

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