From: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
To: "Tillier, Fabian" <ftillier@infiniconsys.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>,
sean.hefty@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hozer@hozed.org, woody@co.intel.com, bill.magro@intel.com,
woody@jf.intel.com, infiniband-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Infiniband-general] Getting an Infiniband access layer in theLinux kernel
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:56:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4022CA25.8070507@didntduck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <08628CA53C6CBA4ABAFB9E808A5214CB01DB96FA@mercury.infiniconsys.com>
Tillier, Fabian wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I'm not arguing about the spinlocks here, and never have. I'm arguing
> about the atomic abstraction for the x86 platforms. My last question
> was not a yes/no question so I'm not sure what you're answering with
> your "No" - your reply makes no sense. To clarify, the answer to a
> "chose one of two things" question is not "No". Basic XOR logic is all
> that's needed here. I'm not sure what you're asking about with the
> whole quotations thing.
>
> Having atomic operations return a value allows one to do something like
> test for zero when decrementing an atomic variable such as a reference
> count, to determine whether final cleanup should proceed. This removes
> the need for an actual spinlock protecting the reference count. As you
> know, reading the value post-decrement does not guarantee that said
> value reflects the result of only that decrement operation. It would be
> catastrophic if two threads checked the value of a reference count
> without proper synchronization - they could both end up running the
> cleanup code with undesired (and perhaps catastrophic) results.
>
> I'll try a simple example for you assuming atomic_dec returns the
> decremented value:
>
> if( atomic_dec( x ) == 0 )
> {
> cleanup();
> }
I guess you missed this then:
/**
* atomic_dec_and_test - decrement and test
* @v: pointer of type atomic_t
*
* Atomically decrements @v by 1 and
* returns true if the result is 0, or false for all other
* cases. Note that the guaranteed
* useful range of an atomic_t is only 24 bits.
*/
There is also atomic_dec_and_lock():
/*
* This is an architecture-neutral, but slow,
* implementation of the notion of "decrement
* a reference count, and return locked if it
* decremented to zero".
*
* NOTE NOTE NOTE! This is _not_ equivalent to
*
* if (atomic_dec_and_test(&atomic)) {
* spin_lock(&lock);
* return 1;
* }
* return 0;
*
* because the spin-lock and the decrement must be
* "atomic".
*
* This slow version gets the spinlock unconditionally,
* and releases it if it isn't needed. Architectures
* are encouraged to come up with better approaches,
* this is trivially done efficiently using a load-locked
* store-conditional approach, for example.
*/
--
Brian Gerst
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-05 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-05 22:17 [Infiniband-general] Getting an Infiniband access layer in theLinux kernel Tillier, Fabian
2004-02-05 22:56 ` Brian Gerst [this message]
2004-02-05 22:58 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-24 17:55 Woodruff, Robert J
2004-02-24 18:03 ` Greg KH
[not found] <mailman.1076018705.12618.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-02-09 1:51 ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-02-08 23:43 Arnd Bergmann
2004-02-08 21:36 Woodruff, Robert J
2004-02-06 16:42 Hefty, Sean
2004-02-06 17:05 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-06 17:23 ` Roland Dreier
2004-02-06 18:00 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-06 18:12 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-06 18:13 ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-06 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-06 18:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-06 19:02 ` Matti Aarnio
2004-02-06 19:11 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-02-07 3:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-06 18:54 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-06 19:01 ` somenath
2004-02-06 17:27 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2004-02-06 18:51 ` Greg KH
2004-02-08 8:31 ` Fab Tillier
2004-02-08 16:29 ` Greg KH
2004-02-08 16:51 ` Fab Tillier
2004-02-09 2:55 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2004-02-09 2:57 ` Greg KH
2004-02-06 4:07 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-02-05 23:09 Woodruff, Robert J
2004-02-05 22:55 Woodruff, Robert J
2004-02-05 22:54 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-02-05 22:26 Hefty, Sean
2004-02-05 22:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-05 22:39 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-02-05 23:19 ` Greg KH
2004-02-06 1:10 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2004-02-05 22:02 Tillier, Fabian
2004-02-06 1:57 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2004-02-05 20:32 Tillier, Fabian
2004-02-05 21:27 ` Greg KH
2004-02-05 21:56 ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-06 20:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-05 19:26 Tillier, Fabian
2004-02-05 20:27 ` Greg KH
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