From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@myrealbox.com>
To: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Tridgell <tridge@samba.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Al Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: UTF-8 and case-insensitivity
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:09:46 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4032BB5A.7040803@myrealbox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.idvvhjl.1jge92d@ifi.uio.no>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> int magic_open(
> /* Input arguments */
> const char *pathname,
> unsigned long flags,
> mode_t mode,
>
> /* output arguments */
> int *fd,
> struct stat *st,
> int *successful_path_length);
>
> ie the system call would:
>
> - look up as far into the pathname (using _exact_ lookup) as possible
> - return the error code of the last failure
> - the "flags" could be extended so that you can specify that you mustn't
> traverse ".." or symlinks (ie those would count as failures)
>
> but also:
>
> - fill in the "struct stat" information for the last _successful_
> pathname component.
> - fill in the "fd" with a fd of the last _successful_ pathname component.
> - tell how much of the pathname it could traverse.
Aside from just case-insensitivity, I imagine this could give lots of other
benefits:
- file servers that don't want to follow symlinks can do it quickly.
- Apache could serve things like http://www.foo.com/a/b/c/d.php/e/f/g a lot
faster.
- a flag to avoid traversing mountpoints could help someone
- a flag for root to see _through_ mountpoints would make it possible to clean
up initramfs and such that got mounted over, or to do other useful and currently
impossible tasks. (e.g. I could see what's under my devfs mount...)
I would be nice to see this added even if it's not the perfect solution for samba :)
BTW, here's a thought for solving samba's negative lookup problem:
int ugly_stat(char *pattern, struct stat *st, char *match_out)
Pattern would be some description of what the filename should look like.
Something like:
- pattern is an array of slash-delimited groups of characters separated by nulls
and terminated by two nulls. For example, ugly_stat("F/f\0O/o\0O/o\0\0", ...)
finds a file called foo, case-insensitively in English, while
ugly_stat("F\0i\0l\0e\011/22/33") finds "File" followed by either 11, 22, or 33.
- the dcache problem is easy: don't use it. All Andrew wants (I think) is proof
that there is no such file or the name if there is one. Samba can cache it
itself; I don't think the kernel should involve itself in trying to cache this.
- ugly_stat does not traverse directories -- that's why the slash trick is safe.
- st gets the stat data, and match_out gets the filename if any
- if there are multiple matches, one is arbitrarily selected.
If the file-system doesn't have specific support for this, then either VFS or
the caller could emulate it (probably VFS -- it would avoid lots of syscalls).
Would ugly_stat + magic_open be sufficient?
--Andy
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2004-02-19 0:06 ` UTF-8 and case-insensitivity Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-19 1:01 ` tridge
2004-02-19 1:08 ` Hua Zhong
2004-02-19 1:46 ` tridge
2004-02-19 2:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-19 3:20 ` tridge
2004-02-19 10:18 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-19 12:11 ` Paulo Marques
2004-02-19 19:04 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-19 14:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-19 20:12 ` Robert White
2004-02-17 4:12 tridge
2004-02-17 5:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 6:54 ` tridge
2004-02-17 8:33 ` Neil Brown
2004-02-17 22:48 ` tridge
2004-02-18 0:06 ` Neil Brown
2004-02-18 9:47 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-17 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 19:44 ` viro
2004-02-17 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 20:17 ` viro
2004-02-17 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 21:08 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-17 21:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 22:27 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 3:02 ` tridge
2004-02-17 23:57 ` tridge
2004-02-17 23:20 ` tridge
2004-02-17 23:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 3:26 ` tridge
2004-02-18 5:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 7:54 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-18 2:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 3:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 3:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 3:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 21:31 ` tridge
2004-02-18 22:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 22:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 22:50 ` tridge
2004-02-18 22:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 23:09 ` tridge
2004-02-18 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-19 8:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-19 16:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-19 16:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-19 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-19 18:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-19 19:08 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-18 4:08 ` tridge
2004-02-18 10:05 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 11:43 ` tridge
2004-02-18 12:31 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 16:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 20:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-19 2:53 ` Daniel Newby
2004-02-17 5:25 ` Tim Connors
2004-02-17 7:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-17 8:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-17 14:25 ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-18 0:16 ` Robert White
2004-02-18 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 1:03 ` Robert White
2004-02-18 21:48 ` Ville Herva
2004-02-18 2:48 ` tridge
2004-02-18 20:56 ` Robert White
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