From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262687AbUBREIV (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:08:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262686AbUBREHv (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:07:51 -0500 Received: from host-64-65-253-246.alb.choiceone.net ([64.65.253.246]:23509 "EHLO gaimboi.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263088AbUBREHK (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:07:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4032E0A6.7060608@tmr.com> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:48:54 -0500 From: Bill Davidsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Lokier CC: Robert White , "'Theodore Ts'o'" , "'Pavel Machek'" , "'the grugq'" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PATCH - ext2fs privacy (i.e. secure deletion) patch References: <20040204062936.GA2663@thunk.org> <20040213034119.GK25499@mail.shareable.org> In-Reply-To: <20040213034119.GK25499@mail.shareable.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jamie Lokier wrote: > Robert White wrote: > >>On the more positive side this would be _*outstanding*_ for my NV-RAM >>keychain drive where the files are warranted to be small and I don't want >>some random person who finds my lost keychain even able to guess about that >>pesky project I was working on last month. > > > An encrypted and/or steganographic filesystem would be much better for > your NVRAM keychain drive, because that hides your files even when you > _haven't_ deleted them. But these are not mutually exclusive. Even if the data are encrypted, when I delete something I want it GONE. That way even if a TLA with resources to break the crypto steals my device, my previous password list is safe. -- bill davidsen CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979