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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>
Cc: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net>,
	Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:07:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40337199.2060609@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Xine.LNX.4.44.0402151924490.13809-100000@thoron.boston.redhat.com>

James Morris wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, Jari Ruusu wrote:
> 
> 
>>Jan Rychter wrote:
>>
>>>FWIW, I've just tried loop-AES with 2.4.24, after using cryptoapi for a
>>>number of years. My machine froze dead in the midst of copying 2.8GB of
>>>data onto my file-backed reiserfs encrypted loopback mount.
>>>
>>>Since the system didn't ever freeze on me before and since I've had zero
>>>problems with cryptoapi, I attribute the freeze to loop-AES.
>>>
>>>Yes, I know this isn't a good bugreport...
>>
>>Is there any particular reason why you insist on using file backed loops?
>>
>>File backed loops have hard to fix re-entry problem: GFP_NOFS memory
>>allocations that cause dirty pages to written out to file backed loop, will
>>have to re-enter the file system anyway to complete the write. This causes
>>deadlocks. Same deadlocks are there in mainline loop+cryptoloop combo.
> 
> 
> Given the security issues, and the above problems, we should probably just
> remove cryptoloop from the kernel and wait for something with a better
> design.

I hope you're kidding... one of the reasons for going to 2.6 is that you 
no longer have to patch your kernel to get cryptoloop. That is a real 
issue in some organizations, which only allow vendor or kernel.org kernels.

If you start dropping features which work for most people but aren't 
perfect, you will wind up with a microkernel indeed.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   CTO TMR Associates, Inc
   Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979

  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-18 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-11 15:33 Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.* Michal Kwolek
2004-02-11 18:41 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-15  2:35   ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-15 14:51     ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-15 16:38       ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-16  0:26       ` James Morris
2004-02-18 14:07         ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-02-16 12:22       ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-17 14:09         ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-17 19:14           ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-18 14:06             ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-18 21:40               ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-19 13:34                 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-11 22:54 ` bill davidsen
2004-02-15 17:34 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 18:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-15 18:42     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 18:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-15 19:36         ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 19:46           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-15 20:24             ` kthread vs. dm-daemon (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 22:13               ` kthread vs. dm-daemon Mike Christie
2004-02-16  0:04                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  1:04                   ` Mike Christie
2004-02-16  1:29                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  3:02               ` kthread vs. dm-daemon (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Rusty Russell
2004-02-16 13:27                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 16:42                   ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 13:48                 ` Joe Thornber
2004-02-16  1:44             ` dm-crypt using kthread " Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  1:53               ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-16  2:07                 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-02-16  3:03                   ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  3:22                     ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-02-16  4:05                       ` dm-crypt using kthread Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  4:14                         ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-02-16 10:15                           ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  9:54                       ` dm-crypt using kthread (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Christophe Saout
2004-03-01 22:18                     ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-03-01 22:51                       ` Christophe Saout
2004-03-01 23:22                         ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-16  2:58                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  7:28                   ` David Wagner
2004-02-16 10:11                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-18 14:15                 ` dm-crypt using kthread Bill Davidsen
2004-02-16  2:07               ` dm-crypt using kthread (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Andrew Morton
2004-02-16  2:17                 ` dm-crypt using kthread Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  2:53                 ` dm-crypt using kthread (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  2:10               ` dm-crypt using kthread Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  2:40                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  2:58                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  3:10                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 13:04                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 19:09                       ` Jeff Garzik

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