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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
Cc: JG <jg@cms.ac>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: could someone plz explain those ext3/hard disk errors
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:26:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4033AE69.9050400@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200402181442.i1IEgwF2000170@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>

John Bradford wrote:
> Quote from Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>:
> 
>>John Bradford wrote:
>>
>>>>now...hm, it all started when i upgraded from kernel 2.4.19 to 2.6.0
>>>>in late decemeber, the system worked very fine for a week or so
>>>>(having great response times!) but then all of a sudden the problems
>>>>started. 2 disks died. then my gigabit network card was only able to
>>>>transmit 200kb/s (but this was really a hardware problem, a new card
>>>>is working fine again, well...). a week later the next disks are
>>>>having problems and i have yet to RMA three disks. and now the next
>>>>two disks..., i'm getting insane ;) i can't see any EXT3 error anymore
>>>>*g* the next disks will be reiserfs only to see other error messages
>>>>;) well, but that doesn't solve the problem of 6 disks within 2
>>>>months...this is so unlikely.
>>>
>>>
>>>Please read the FAQ, fix your mail application - you are sending long
>>>lines, and don't break the CC list.
>>>
>>>As to your problem, look at the LBA sector addresses in the error
>>>message:
>>>
>>>280923064991615
>>>
>>>is your drive really over 100 EB?  No...
>>
>>I think we could assume that (a) he never told the kernel the disk was 
>>"over 100 EB" and (b) the kernel was trying to use that LBA anyway. 
>>Which could be due to either a kernel bug or memory corruption (or CPU 
>>problems, but unlikely).
> 
> 
> What I was trying to point out is that the error message is clearly
> the result of a problem elsewhere.  Unless the drive firmware is
> buggy, or something very strange is going on inside the drive, (bad
> internal RAM or something like that), then the kernel did send a
> request for a sector which is well out of range.  What caused that
> request we don't know - quite possibly corruption of some filesystem
> structure on the disk caused that request, but it's important to be
> clear that the error message is the expected response to a request for
> such a high block number, and doesn't within itself indicate a problem
> with the disk.
> 
> I.E. Even though there is every chance that the drive is faulty, the
> posted error message doesn't indicate a drive failiure in itself, and
> you should look elsewhere.

Yes, I think we are saying the same thing, and by now hopefully the O.P. 
has gotten that. I suspect non-disk cause, just my guess.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   CTO TMR Associates, Inc
   Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-18 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-08 17:53 could someone plz explain those ext3/hard disk errors JG
2004-02-08 18:55 ` Micha Feigin
2004-02-08 19:05   ` JG
2004-02-09  1:47 ` Heriberto A Tejeda
2004-02-09  9:52   ` JG
2004-02-09 10:26     ` John Bradford
2004-02-09 11:06       ` JG
2004-02-18 13:31       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-18 14:42         ` John Bradford
2004-02-18 15:54           ` JG
2004-02-18 18:26           ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-02-09 11:52     ` Gene Heskett
2004-02-18 13:41       ` Bill Davidsen

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