From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
torvalds@osd.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, arjanv@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:59:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4035077E.5020506@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040219123110.A22406@infradead.org>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:28:58PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>OK, so I looked at the wrapper. It wasn't a tremendously pleasant
>>experience. It is huge, and uses fairly standard-looking filesytem
>>interfaces and locking primitives. Also some awareness of NFSV4 for some
>>reason.
>>
>>Still, the wrapper is GPL so this is not relevant.
>
> Well, something that needs an almost one megabyte big wrapper per defintion
> is not a standalone work but something that's deeply interwinded with
> the kernel. The tons of kernel version checks certainly show it's poking
> deeper than it should.
>...
>
> Something that pokes deep into internal structures and even
> needs new exports certainly is a derived work.
I'd argue (again) that having a complex glue layer is not evidence
per se of the glued module being a derived work. If anything,
it is evidence to the contrary. But it depends on the circumstances.
The question for GPFS itself is whether it was modified to run with
Linux, and how it was modified, and how much it was modified.
If your argument is that Linux, after being modified with the glue
layer, is now a derivative work of the glued module, that seems
more likely. I'm not sure how the GPL reads on that case.
=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Co-Chair
CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer
Sony Electronics
E-mail: Tim.Bird@am.sony.com
=============================
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-19 18:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-16 19:09 Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-17 2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-17 7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17 12:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 0:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 12:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-18 14:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 21:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 15:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 22:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 22:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 23:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 16:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 23:32 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 12:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 18:56 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 19:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 13:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 3:17 ` Anton Blanchard
2004-02-20 21:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-19 0:28 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 18:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 9:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20040219183210.GX14000@marowsky-bree.de>
2004-02-19 18:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 19:16 ` viro
2004-02-19 16:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 18:59 ` Tim Bird [this message]
2004-02-19 9:11 ` David Weinehall
2004-02-19 8:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-04 5:51 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-19 10:29 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19 9:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 11:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 11:53 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-18 18:04 ` Tim Bird
2004-02-19 20:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 22:06 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-02-19 22:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 16:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 2:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 19:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 5:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 12:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 20:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 14:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 23:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 16:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-21 3:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 21:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-20 22:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 23:56 ` GFS requirements (was: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range) Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-21 3:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-21 14:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-21 19:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-22 10:37 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-24 18:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-18 12:12 ` Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range Dominik Kubla
[not found] ` <24651326.1077037044@42.150.104.212.access.eclipse.net.uk>
2004-02-18 13:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17 22:22 ` David Weinehall
[not found] ` <200402211400.16779.phillips@arcor.de>
[not found] ` <20040222233911.GB1311@us.ibm.com>
2004-02-25 21:04 ` [RFC] Distributed mmap API Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 19:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 19:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 22:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03 3:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03 3:15 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-03 13:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-04 18:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
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