From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261671AbUBVENG (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:13:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261674AbUBVENG (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:13:06 -0500 Received: from wbar8.tampa1-4-4-125-218.tampa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.4.125.218]:18564 "EHLO Copernicus") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261671AbUBVENC (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:13:02 -0500 Message-ID: <40382C47.70603@coyotegulch.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:12:55 -0500 From: Scott Robert Ladd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040122 Debian/1.6-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Intel vs AMD x86-64 References: <16435.14044.182718.134404@alkaid.it.uu.se> <20040222025957.GA31813@MAIL.13thfloor.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds wrote: > Any Intel people on this list: tell your managers to be f*cking ashamed of > themselves. Just because Intel didn't care about their customers and has > been playing with some other 64-bit architecture that nobody wanted to use > is no excuse for not giving credit to AMD for what they did with x86-64. > > (I'm really happy Intel finally got with the program, but it's pretty > petty to not even mention AMD in the documentation and try to make it > look like it was all their idea). I couldn't have put it better myself. Were it polite to attach sounds to mailing list posts, I would add thunderous applause to my approbations. Intel chips have been a part of my professional life for a very long time; I've never owned an AMD processor, and I'm certainly not one of their fanboys. I've worked closely with folk at Intel on some projects, and they have been quite generous at times. Some fine technologists work for them. But on a corporate level, Intel has disappointed me with their arrogant failure to give credit where credit is due. Last week, before Intel's announcement, I ordered a new Linux workstation. As a "lone wolf" consultant, I sometimes agonize over whether I make the right decisions when buying equipment. In this case, I feeling pretty dang good: the new system will arrive with a pair of Opterons on the motherboard. -- Scott Robert Ladd Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com) Software Invention for High-Performance Computing