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From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>,
	David Ford <david+powerix@blue-labs.org>,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: /proc or ps tools bug?  2.6.3, time is off
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:20:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <403E8D5B.9040707@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1077837016.2857.171.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com>

john stultz wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 15:06, George Anzinger wrote:
> 
>>john stultz wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 13:10, George Anzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Albert Cahalan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This is NOT sane. Remeber that procps doesn't get to see HZ.
>>>>>Only USER_HZ is available, as the AT_CLKTCK ELF note.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think the way to fix this is to skip or add a tick
>>>>>every now and then, so that the long-term HZ is exact.
>>>>>
>>>>>Another way is to simply choose between pure old-style
>>>>>tick-based timekeeping and pure new-style cycle-based
>>>>>(TSC or ACPI) timekeeping. Systems with uncooperative
>>>>>hardware have to use the old-style time keeping. This
>>>>>should simply the code greatly.
>>>>
>>>>On checking the code and thinking about this, I would suggest that we change 
>>>>start_time in the task struct to be the wall time (or monotonic time if that 
>>>>seems better).  I only find two places this is used, in proc and in the 
>>>>accounting code.  Both of these could easily be changed.  Of course, even 
>>>>leaving it as it is, they could be changed to report more correct values by 
>>>>using the correct conversions to translate the system HZ to USER_HZ.
>>>
>>>
>>>Is this close to what your thinking of? 
>>>I can't reproduce the issue on my systems, so I'll need someone else to
>>>test this. 
>>
>>More or less.  I wonder if:
> 
> 
>>static inline long jiffies_to_clock_t(long x)
>>{
>>	u64 tmp = (u64)x * TICK_NSEC;
>>	div64(tmp, (NSEC_PER_SEC / USER_HZ));
>>	return (long)x;
>>}
>>might be better as it addresses the overflow issue.  Should be able to toss the 
>>#if (HZ % USER_HZ)==0 test too.  We could get carried away and do scaled math to 
>>eliminate the div64 but I don't think this path is used enough to justify the 
>>clarity ;) that would make.
> 
> 
> Sounds good to me. Would you mind sending the diff so Petri and David
> could test it?

Oops, I have been caught :)  The above was composed in the email window.  I 
don't have a 2.6.x kernel up at the moment and I don't have any free cycles...
Late next week??
> 

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml


  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-27  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-25  1:58 /proc or ps tools bug? 2.6.3, time is off David Ford
2004-02-25  1:54 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-25  5:10   ` David Ford
2004-02-25  3:27     ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-25 16:28       ` George Anzinger
2004-02-25 16:04         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-25 20:45           ` George Anzinger
2004-02-25 19:16             ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-25 21:10           ` George Anzinger
2004-02-26  1:52             ` john stultz
2004-02-26 23:06               ` George Anzinger
2004-02-26 23:10                 ` john stultz
2004-02-27  0:20                   ` George Anzinger [this message]
2004-04-13 22:38                     ` john stultz
2004-04-13 22:59                       ` George Anzinger
2004-04-14 12:10                       ` Tim Schmielau
2004-04-14 17:03                         ` George Anzinger
2004-04-14 18:28                         ` john stultz
2004-04-15 10:37                           ` Petri Kaukasoina
2004-04-15 11:05                             ` Tim Schmielau
2004-04-15 16:14                               ` Petri Kaukasoina
2004-05-01 13:51                                 ` Tim Schmielau
2004-05-02  1:41                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-02  1:59                                     ` Tim Schmielau
2004-05-04  2:40                                       ` john stultz
2004-05-04  6:12                                         ` Tim Schmielau
2004-05-04 14:59                                           ` john stultz
2004-05-04 16:50                                             ` Tim Schmielau
2004-05-07  0:33                                             ` George Anzinger
2004-05-07  1:21                                               ` john stultz
2004-05-07 20:41                                                 ` George Anzinger
2004-05-07 21:38                                                   ` john stultz
2004-02-26 23:14               ` George Anzinger
2004-02-25  9:14 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2004-02-25  9:18   ` Petri Kaukasoina
2004-02-25 21:39   ` David Ford

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