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From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Jean-Luc Cooke <jlcooke@certainkey.com>,
	dean gaudet <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>,
	Christophe Saout <christophe@saout.de>,
	Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.kernel.2004@gmx.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: DM for detecting bad disks was: dm-crypt, new IV and standards
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:14:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <404AA1B2.4090500@matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040304150836.GE531@openzaurus.ucw.cz>

Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
>>>>Well, CTR mode is not recommended for encrypted file systems because it is very
>>>>easy to corrupt single bits, bytes, blocks, etc without an integrity check.
>>>>If we add a MAC, then any mode of operation except ECB can be used for
>>>>encrypted file systems.
>>>
>>>what does "easy to corrupt" mean?  i haven't really seen disks generate
>>>bit errors ever.  this MAC means you'll need to write integrity data for
>>>every real write.  that really doesn't seem worth it...
>>
>>The difference between "_1,000,000" and "_8,000,000" is 1 bit.  If an
>>attacker knew enough about the layout of the filesystem (modify times on blocks,
>>etc) they could flip a single bit and change your _1Mil purchase order
>>approved by your boss to a _8Mil order.
> 
> 
> Hmm... long time ago I created crc loop device to catch
> faulty disks. If cryptoloop can do that for me... very good!

Yes, a crc, or some other very low overhead DM target would be great for 
this.  I haven't looked at DM too much. :( Does it already have 
something like this already?

      reply	other threads:[~2004-03-07  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-19 22:06 dm-crypt, new IV and standards Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-02-19 22:20 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-20 17:22   ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-02-20 21:26     ` James Morris
2004-02-20 21:52       ` 2.6.3 adaptec I2O will not compile David Lang
2004-02-25 16:25         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-02-26  8:02           ` Jaco Kroon
2004-02-26  8:08             ` David Lang
2004-02-26  9:28               ` Jaco Kroon
2004-02-26 10:24                 ` David Lang
2004-02-21  0:31       ` dm-crypt, new IV and standards Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-02-21 16:48       ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-02-21 17:36         ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-02-21 19:01         ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-03-03  8:35         ` dean gaudet
2004-03-03 15:06           ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-03-03 21:40             ` David Wagner
2004-03-08 19:58               ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-03-04  1:48             ` dean gaudet
2004-03-04 13:24               ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-03-04 17:44                 ` David Wagner
2004-03-05  1:19                 ` dean gaudet
2004-03-05  2:14                   ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-03-04 15:08             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-07  4:14               ` Mike Fedyk [this message]

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