From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: vda <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>,
Dax Kelson <dax@gurulabs.com>,
James Ketrenos <jketreno@linux.co.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Announce] Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 802.11b driver
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:26:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <404F4FBD.60805@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <404F50E7.4090907@techsource.com>
Timothy Miller wrote:
>
>
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>> vda wrote:
>>
>>> *FLAME ALERT*
>>> /me is slowly getting mad about his prism54 11g hardware
>>> and its firmware, with neither firmware authors nor documentation
>>> for this pile of silicon crap nowhere in sight
>>>
>>> What's so cool about having binary firmware? Bugs are bugs,
>>> and you won't be able to even see bugs, less fix, in it.
>>> I don't like being at the mercy of firmware authors.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well that's typical in wireless, unfortunately. Certain parts of
>> wireless are political tennis balls with the US govt. and FCC.
>> Sometimes "put it in firmware" is the only way get ever get open
>> source drivers at all :/
>>
>> I'll pick firmware over no-driver any day.
>>
>
>
> Hmmm... As you may know, I'm a chip designer...
>
> Are there not open specs on the wireless protocols? Could we not design
> our own open-source wireless network hardware? What would the US
> government have to say about an open-source implementation? Are there
> patents which would impede us?
These are honest questions, but with all due respect, I would rather not
dive further into the mess :)
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-10 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-09 20:24 [Announce] Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 802.11b driver James Ketrenos
2004-03-09 20:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-09 22:01 ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-09 23:48 ` Marcel Holtmann
2004-03-09 21:05 ` Timothy Miller
2004-03-09 21:12 ` Dax Kelson
2004-03-10 2:46 ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-10 8:15 ` vda
2004-03-10 8:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-10 17:31 ` Timothy Miller
2004-03-10 17:26 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-03-12 0:32 ` Lincoln Dale
2004-03-11 1:07 ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-03-10 12:35 ` bert hubert
2004-03-10 18:06 ` Disconnect
2004-03-11 22:45 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-03-10 7:52 ` Jan De Luyck
2004-03-11 6:23 ` Jan De Luyck
2004-03-11 7:48 ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-11 8:05 ` Jan De Luyck
2004-03-11 18:37 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-03-11 22:14 ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-11 22:27 ` Bill Davidsen
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