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From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: vda <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>,
	Dax Kelson <dax@gurulabs.com>,
	James Ketrenos <jketreno@linux.co.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Announce] Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 802.11b driver
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:31:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <404F50E7.4090907@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <404ED404.4050604@pobox.com>



Jeff Garzik wrote:
> vda wrote:
> 
>> *FLAME ALERT*
>> /me is slowly getting mad about his prism54 11g hardware
>> and its firmware, with neither firmware authors nor documentation
>> for this pile of silicon crap nowhere in sight
>>
>> What's so cool about having binary firmware? Bugs are bugs,
>> and you won't be able to even see bugs, less fix, in it.
>> I don't like being at the mercy of firmware authors.
> 
> 
> 
> Well that's typical in wireless, unfortunately.  Certain parts of 
> wireless are political tennis balls with the US govt. and FCC. Sometimes 
> "put it in firmware" is the only way get ever get open source drivers at 
> all :/
> 
> I'll pick firmware over no-driver any day.
> 


Hmmm...  As you may know, I'm a chip designer...

Are there not open specs on the wireless protocols?  Could we not design 
our own open-source wireless network hardware?  What would the US 
government have to say about an open-source implementation?  Are there 
patents which would impede us?


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-10 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-09 20:24 [Announce] Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 802.11b driver James Ketrenos
2004-03-09 20:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-09 22:01   ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-09 23:48     ` Marcel Holtmann
2004-03-09 21:05 ` Timothy Miller
2004-03-09 21:12 ` Dax Kelson
2004-03-10  2:46   ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-10  8:15   ` vda
2004-03-10  8:38     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-10 17:31       ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2004-03-10 17:26         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-12  0:32         ` Lincoln Dale
2004-03-11  1:07       ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-03-10 12:35     ` bert hubert
2004-03-10 18:06     ` Disconnect
2004-03-11 22:45     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-03-10  7:52 ` Jan De Luyck
2004-03-11  6:23   ` Jan De Luyck
2004-03-11  7:48     ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-11  8:05       ` Jan De Luyck
2004-03-11 18:37 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-03-11 22:14   ` James Ketrenos
2004-03-11 22:27 ` Bill Davidsen

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