From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: viro@math.psu.edu (Alexander Viro), kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens),
sirmorcant@morcant.org (Morgan Collins [Ax0n]),
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Tainted Modules Help Notices
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:18:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4058.1002737910@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15rNBu-0008To-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E15rNBu-0008To-00@the-village.bc.nu>
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk said:
> Subject to patent holdings. If you hold a patent on the BSD code you
> can't GPL it
That's not wonderfully clear. They don't have to _restrict_ your rights -
just neglect to grant you the right to use the algorithm in question, which
you didn't have in the first place anyway.
> nor is it GPL compatible.
I believe that statement is as true as the assertion that nobody, even in
the Free World, can write GPL'd code which use the algorithms covered by
the patent.
Either way, I didn't think that a political stance against patents was the
point of the kernel tainting code - I thought it was about maintainability.
> The problem we have is that "BSD without advertisment" can be claimed
> by almost any binary only module whose author doesnt include source or
> let it out fo their company ever
GPL can also be claimed by a module whose author doesn't publish either the
source or the binary, or who charges lots and lots of money for shipping the
binary and ships the source with it with a 'request' that the recipient
doesn't then give it away for free.
But if we're not going to allow BSD-licensed modules to be loaded without
tainting the kernel, we shouldn't mark any of the code distributed with the
kernel as BSD-licensed - we should make it all "Dual BSD/GPL" instead.
It might also be useful to have a 'Dual GPL/Other' option, for covering the
other randomly dual-licensed code (like JFFS2).
--
dwmw2
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-10 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-10 8:06 Tainted Modules Help Notices Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10 8:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 8:24 ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10 8:31 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 13:50 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 13:59 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 14:01 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 17:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 18:18 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2001-10-10 20:06 ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-10 20:28 ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10 21:28 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 22:03 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2001-10-11 7:27 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 21:17 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 23:02 ` Juan Quintela
2001-10-10 23:28 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-10 22:29 ` Rob Landley
2001-10-11 2:48 ` 2.4.11 UDF Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-11 3:26 ` Craig Whitmore
2001-10-11 8:50 ` Tainted Modules Help Notices Andreas Ferber
2001-10-11 9:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11 9:35 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-11 9:41 ` Pekka Pietikäinen
2001-10-11 9:48 ` Syed Mohammad Talha
2001-10-11 10:09 ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-11 10:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11 22:42 ` David Schwartz
2001-10-11 23:40 ` John Alvord
2001-10-12 1:12 ` David Schwartz
2001-10-12 1:32 ` Robert Love
2001-10-11 12:10 ` James Sutherland
2001-10-10 14:13 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 14:18 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 13:10 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-10 14:06 Bonds, Deanna
2001-10-10 14:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
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