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From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: sched_setaffinity usability
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:02:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <405AB72B.4030204@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040318182407.GA1287@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>>sysconf() is a user-level implementation issue, and so is something
>>like "number of CPU's". Damn, the simplest way to do it is as a
>>environment variable, for christ sake! Just make a magic environment
>>variable called __SC_ARRAY, and make it be some kind of binary
>>encoding if you worry about performance.
> 
> 
> i am not arguing for any sysconf() support at all - it clearly belongs
> into glibc. Just doing 'man sysconf' shows that it should be in
> user-space. No argument about that.
> 
> But how about the original issue Ulrich raised: how does user-space
> figure out the NR_CPUS value supported by the kernel? (not the current #
> of CPUs, that can be figured out using /proc/cpuinfo)
> 
> one solution would be what you suggest: to build some sort of /etc/info
> file that glibc can access, which file is build during the kernel build
> and contains the necessary constants. One problem with this approach is
> that a user could boot via any arbitrary kernel, how does glibc (or even
> a supposed early-init info-setup mechanism) know what info belongs to
> which kernel? Kernel version numbers are not required to be unique. A
> single non-modular bzImage can be used to have a fully working
> userspace. Right now the kernel and glibc is isolated pretty much and
> this gives us flexibility.

Let the compile create that info file.  Then handle it much like a module,
except that it is a "module" without any code.  
I.e. copy it to /lib/modules/<kernelversion> if installing modules,
or stuff the file into the initrd if making an initrd.  

Now it is in a place specific to the kernel, where a library can find it.

Helge Hafting



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-19  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-18  8:05 sched_setaffinity usability Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-18  8:12 ` Tim Hockin
2004-03-18  8:22   ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-18  8:47     ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-18  9:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 10:10   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 11:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-18 12:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-18 12:31     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-19  8:05       ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-18 15:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-18 18:24       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-18 18:33         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 18:39           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-18 18:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-18 20:01             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 20:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-18 20:49         ` David Lang
2004-03-18 20:57           ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-18 21:06           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-18 21:07         ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-18 21:46           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-19  1:37             ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-19  9:02         ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2004-03-21  9:51           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-19  0:00       ` Paul Jackson
2004-03-18 17:47 ` sched_setaffinity usability -- other issue Chris Friesen
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2004-03-18 21:23               ` sched_setaffinity usability Andi Kleen

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