From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] barrier patch set
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:14:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <405B8CFD.2030909@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200403200059.22234.bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl>
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> The fact that spec says "supported" not "enabled" in description of word86
> makes me wonder - can they be disabled? (FLUSH CACHE is mandatory for General
> feature set and FLUSH CACHE EXT is mandatory if 48-bit LBA is supported)
Yes, that's why there are separate 'supported' and 'enabled' bits for
each feature.
Words 82-84 are 'supported' bits. Words 85-87 are 'enabled' bits.
These bits mirror each other, i.e. Word 83 and Word 86 have basically
the same bits, except that Word 86 definitions change _slightly_ since
the only bits that are relevant are the ones for features that can be
disabled/enabled.
You use set-features command to enable and disable these features, and
then the result shows up in subsequent identify-device command output.
If the driver is testing for a capability but does not enable it, then
always use the 'enabled' set of bits, not the 'supported' set of bits.
> Jeff, please note that these bits were introduced by ATA-6 spec
> and take a look at ATA-5 spec:
>
> ...
> FLUSH CACHE
> General feature set
> - Mandatory for all devices
> ...
>
> and ATA-4 spec:
>
> ...
> FLUSH CACHE
> General feature set
> - Optional for all devices
> ...
>
> IMO to test if FLUSH CACHE works we should just issue it during disk setup
> and check result. This way we can use FLUSH CACHE also on < ATA-6 devices
> (there is a lot of them).
I disagree. "just issue it" is how those LG cdrom drives got cooked.
LG cdrom drives indicated in their identify-packet-device page that
flush-cache was not supported... and then re-used the flush-cache ATA
opcode for their vendor-specific download-firmware command. Combine
that with a Linux patch that didn't properly check for flush-cache
support. Result: brick.
All drives that support flush-cache list the relevant bits in
identify-device, even on pre-ATA-6 devices. Whether the feature was
optional or mandantory, we can check the feature bits.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-20 0:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-19 15:35 [PATCH] barrier patch set Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 16:30 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-03-19 18:16 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 18:44 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-03-20 9:55 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 16:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-19 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 23:01 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-20 0:02 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 1:48 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-20 2:13 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 2:53 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-20 16:03 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 11:36 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-20 16:00 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 23:36 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-21 1:33 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 18:52 ` Helge Hafting
2004-03-22 11:15 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-19 23:59 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:14 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-03-20 0:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 1:24 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 9:58 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 10:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 10:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 10:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 16:30 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-21 18:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 10:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 15:54 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 9:53 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 16:23 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 16:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 16:32 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-20 17:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 17:10 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-20 20:16 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-21 9:43 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-30 16:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-30 19:19 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-30 21:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-30 22:13 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 14:03 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 14:27 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 18:28 ` Ric Wheeler
2004-03-30 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-30 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:41 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-30 22:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-30 22:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-31 14:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 14:21 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 21:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-31 22:09 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 21:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-19 16:48 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2004-03-19 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-22 11:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-22 11:10 ` Jens Axboe
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