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From: Peter Williams <peterw@aurema.com>
To: Tim Schmielau <tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Smietanowski <stesmi@stesmi.com>,
	Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il>,
	John Reiser <jreiser@BitWagon.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: finding out the value of HZ from userspace
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:30:35 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <405CF03B.7090801@aurema.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0403210202120.24035@gockel.physik3.uni-rostock.de>

Tim Schmielau wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Peter Williams wrote:
> 
> 
>>In the 2.6 kernels internal timing and task statistics (for i386 
>>systems) are now kept in milliseconds where they were previously in 
>>1/100ths of a second.  By converting these statistics to 1/100ths of a 
>>second for export to user space an order of magnitude (i.e. a factor of 
>>10) loss of precision occurs.
> 
> 
> No. The statistics are not a result of full bookkeeping, but simply
> gained by periodically sampling the processor state. So they don't
> have a precision of 1/1000th of a second anyways.

1/1000th of a second IS the internal timing precision.  The issue of how 
tasks' CPU usage is allocated for reporting is a different matter but 
from a statistical viewpoint this will just effect the variance (or 
standard deviation) of the estimates and NOT their precision. As the 
number of samples the variance (or standard deviation) decrease rapidly 
so to all intents and purposes the statistics are accurate to the 
nearest 1/1000th of a second.

Peter
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-21  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
2004-03-11 14:17 ` finding out the value of HZ from userspace Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 17:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 19:34     ` John Reiser
2004-03-13 19:38       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 22:14         ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:32           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14  1:05             ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14  1:49               ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14 14:37                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-16  0:28         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  6:33           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-16 23:38             ` Peter Williams
2004-03-20 10:22               ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 11:28                 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 11:41                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 23:58                     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21  1:09                       ` Tim Schmielau
2004-03-21  1:30                         ` Peter Williams [this message]
2004-03-21  8:00                   ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-21 10:32                     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-22 22:34                   ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-22 23:04                     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-25 17:40                       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-25 23:22                         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-27 13:31                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 23:52                             ` Peter Williams
2004-03-28 12:16                               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 21:11                       ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-20 23:26                 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-13 21:19     ` tabris
2004-03-13 22:10     ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:41       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14  1:07         ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14 18:26         ` John Reiser
2004-03-14  2:45   ` Horst von Brand
2004-03-14 14:39     ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-15  8:17     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-16 18:16       ` Mark Gross
2004-03-15 10:13     ` Richard Curnow
     [not found]   ` <200403161757.48786.mgross@linux.intel.com>
     [not found]     ` <20040317023059.GD19564@mail.shareable.org>
2004-03-17 16:48       ` Call for HRT in 2.6 kernel was " Mark Gross
2004-03-17 20:07         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-17 21:25           ` Mark Gross
2004-03-18  1:19           ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-03-18 11:56             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-18 15:23               ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-03-21  1:55                 ` Erik Andersen
2004-03-23 22:35                   ` Karim Yaghmour
     [not found] <1zkOe-Uc-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1zl7M-1eJ-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <1zn9p-3mW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <1znj5-3wM-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <1AaWr-655-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-16  2:27         ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16  5:53           ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  6:16             ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16 23:15               ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 23:56                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-17  0:15                   ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  9:16             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-03-16 23:45               ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 16:14 Albert Cahalan
2004-03-16 17:22 ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-20  9:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 14:54   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-03-20 23:58     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-31 21:40       ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-31 23:46         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-04-01 15:54           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:01             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-01 16:30               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:50                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-01 17:01                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 21:27                   ` Michael Buesch
2004-04-02  0:16                   ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02  0:07                 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02  0:39                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  1:44                     ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 18:28                       ` Tim Bird
2004-04-02 22:05                         ` Peter Williams
2004-04-01 16:12             ` Albert Cahalan

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