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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Benchmarking objrmap under memory pressure
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:54:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <408822F1.80409@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404151746140.9558-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
>>Hugh Dickins wrote:
>>
>>>The worst that will happen with anonmm's mremap move, is that some
>>>app might go slower and need more swap.  Unlikely, but agreed possible.
>>
>>It appears that users on small memory machines running kde are not of 
>>concern to you. Unfortunately that describes a fair number of people, 
>>not everyone has the big memory fast system. I will try to get some 
>>reproducible numbers, but "consistently feels faster" is a reason to 
>>keep running -aa even if I can't quantify it.
> 
> 
> Appearances can be deceptive.  Of course I care about users,
> of small or large memory machines, running kde or not.
> 
> It appears that you do not understand that we're talking about a
> case so rare that we've never seen it in practice, only by testing.
> 
> But perhaps we haven't looked out for it enough (no printk), I'd better
> put something in to tell us when it does occur, thanks for the reminder.
> 
> If -aa consistently feels faster to you, great, go with it:
> but I doubt it's because of this issue we're discussing!

I don't disagree on that, but it seems that KDE developers have put some 
serious effort into making the software well-behaved, and unless there 
is some measurable benefit from the code which negates the benefits of 
that effort, it seems desirable to appreciate code code by letting it work.

I was more commenting on the good performance at the bottom end than 
addressing the large machines. All the big machines I have are in the 
overkill range, and finding small benefits doesn't do much with 
production loads, so I can't contribute any useful info at that end.

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-22 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-13  7:39 Benchmarking objrmap under memory pressure Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-13  7:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-13  7:55   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-13 21:59   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-14  0:38   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-14 16:27     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-14 16:42       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-14 17:11         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-14 17:48       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-14 23:39         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-15 10:21           ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-15 13:22             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-15 13:45               ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-15 14:08                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-15 16:23             ` Bill Davidsen
2004-04-15 16:48               ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-22 19:54                 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-04-22 21:26                   ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-14 18:11   ` Bill Davidsen

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