From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Tigran Aivazian <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>, Marc Boucher <marc@linuxant.com>,
Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@rogers.com>,
koke@sindominio.net, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com,
david@gibson.dropbear.id.au, torvalds@osdl.org, paul@wagland.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:01:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4092948D.6030600@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404301557230.4027-100000@einstein.homenet>
Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>DriverLoader significantly lowers that cost, while not providing an open
>>source solution at all.
>
>
> Ah, I see.... that makes a HUGE difference. Now I understand what the fuss
> is all about. So, that is why everyone jumped on Marc Boucher's throat
> trying to annihilate, humiliate, frighten by unsubstantiated allegations
> and generally grind him into tiny specks of dust, at the same time falsely
> pretending that all the fuss was only about that silly '\0' byte they
> left in their license string (I wish they knew better not to do that ---
> there are millions of ways to achieve what they want).
Nope. The real objection was misleading people about the license of the
module. That part was clearly wrong.
The fact that it dilutes Linux is a side-objection, and we're not making
an objection so much as a warning about the potential long-term effects.
This part isn't clearly wrong so much as something to be concerned about.
At least, that's MY opinion on it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-30 17:57 UTC|newest]
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2004-04-27 13:43 [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Albert Cahalan
2004-04-27 16:18 ` Jon
2004-04-27 16:58 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-27 17:25 ` Adam Jaskiewicz
2004-04-27 17:33 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-27 17:46 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-27 17:53 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-04-27 18:10 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-27 20:37 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-27 20:44 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-04-27 18:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-27 19:03 ` Jorge Bernal (Koke)
2004-04-27 19:16 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-04-27 19:41 ` Jorge Bernal (Koke)
2004-04-27 20:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-28 11:23 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-27 18:10 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-27 18:30 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-27 20:40 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 0:08 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 19:54 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-04-28 11:28 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-27 23:12 ` Rusty Russell
2004-04-28 0:02 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 0:25 ` David Gibson
2004-04-28 1:14 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 3:23 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-28 6:04 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 17:05 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-28 17:37 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 19:31 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 19:46 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 0:02 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 0:40 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 2:20 ` Kenneth Aafløy
2004-04-29 2:31 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 2:36 ` Ian Stirling
2004-04-29 2:38 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 2:47 ` Ian Stirling
2004-04-29 2:47 ` Kenneth Aafløy
2004-04-29 22:47 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-30 15:57 ` Paulo Marques
2004-04-29 15:15 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 15:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 21:00 ` Paul Wagland
2004-04-29 21:36 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 21:45 ` viro
2004-04-29 21:47 ` Jorge Bernal (Koke)
2004-04-29 22:24 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:32 ` Tim Hockin
2004-04-29 22:49 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:40 ` viro
2004-04-29 23:55 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 2:15 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 4:18 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-04-30 4:32 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-30 14:49 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-04-30 16:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 20:01 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-30 4:43 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 5:44 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 6:13 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 8:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-30 8:48 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-30 15:06 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-04-30 15:43 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-30 16:10 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 16:30 ` Chris Friesen
2004-05-10 6:25 ` Rogier Wolff
2004-05-10 7:08 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-30 16:31 ` Gilles May
2004-04-30 16:50 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 17:44 ` Michael Poole
2004-04-30 18:46 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 19:17 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 18:26 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 18:52 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 18:22 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 18:01 ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2004-04-30 8:47 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-30 9:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-30 15:57 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 17:14 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 17:46 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 18:27 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 11:49 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-30 16:20 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 21:03 ` Gene Heskett
2004-04-30 9:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 23:43 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-28 1:57 ` Rusty Russell
2004-04-28 3:28 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 11:47 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-28 16:15 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 19:32 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 19:41 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:41 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-29 23:03 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 13:06 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-28 14:03 ` Tom Sightler
2004-04-28 16:40 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 22:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-04-28 23:00 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 23:54 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-27 23:17 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-28 2:10 ` Horst von Brand
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2004-04-30 20:02 Keith D Burgess Jr
[not found] <009701c42edf$25e47390$ca41cb3f@amer.cisco.com>
2004-04-30 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 19:37 ` Hua Zhong
2004-04-30 20:11 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 20:39 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 20:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 20:53 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 21:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 20:46 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 20:34 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-05-01 0:40 ` Jorge Bernal
2004-05-01 5:07 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-01 19:12 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 19:27 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-01 19:32 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-05-01 19:33 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 22:14 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-05-01 19:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-05-01 20:47 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-01 20:58 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-03 0:04 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] ` <40929F5B.9090603@techsource.com>
2004-04-30 18:58 ` Hua Zhong
2004-04-30 20:14 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-04-30 17:47 Keith D Burgess Jr
2004-04-30 18:39 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 19:37 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-30 20:37 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-29 14:55 Rick Zeman
2004-04-28 18:56 Keith D Burgess Jr
2004-04-28 23:45 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 22:48 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] <20040428011348.GA22754@hockin.org>
2004-04-28 1:33 ` Robert M. Stockmann
[not found] <20040428003034.GA20811@hockin.org>
2004-04-28 0:56 ` Robert M. Stockmann
[not found] <20040428000952.GA19522@hockin.org>
2004-04-28 0:18 ` Robert M. Stockmann
[not found] <878ygh147m.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org>
2004-04-27 22:59 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-04-27 23:05 ` Tim Hockin
2004-04-27 23:30 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-04-27 23:41 ` Tim Hockin
2004-04-27 23:59 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-05-01 9:19 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-04-27 22:17 Nick Warne
2004-04-27 21:34 Robert M. Stockmann
2004-05-01 9:15 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-04-27 19:03 Steve Lee
2004-04-27 19:37 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-04-27 2:09 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 3:13 ` Gilles May
2004-04-27 4:42 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-04-27 9:58 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 4:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-27 6:04 ` Rusty Russell
2004-04-27 9:21 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-27 10:37 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 12:59 ` Paulo Marques
2004-04-27 13:12 ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license (-> possible GPL violation :) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-27 14:10 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-27 17:05 ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Juergen E. Fischer
2004-04-27 18:58 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-28 22:55 ` Timothy Miller
[not found] ` <fa.f05evul.1qmg8gd@ifi.uio.no>
2004-04-27 21:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2004-04-27 21:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-28 23:24 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-27 18:52 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-27 5:26 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-27 7:03 ` Grzegorz Piotr Jaskiewicz
2004-04-29 18:40 ` [hsflinux] " Giuliano Colla
2004-04-29 19:08 ` viro
2004-04-29 19:29 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-29 20:24 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 21:32 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:12 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 22:20 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 23:01 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 6:01 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-04-30 9:33 ` Symbios and BIOS (was: Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license) Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-30 11:07 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-05-06 15:06 ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Pavel Machek
2004-04-29 21:10 ` [hsflinux] " Linus Torvalds
2004-04-29 21:44 ` viro
2004-04-30 13:37 ` Giuliano Colla
2004-04-30 14:14 ` Arthur Perry
2004-04-30 18:14 ` Giuliano Colla
2004-04-30 15:55 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-30 19:27 ` Giuliano Colla
2004-04-30 20:29 ` Timothy Miller
2004-05-02 8:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-02 22:26 ` Giuliano Colla
2004-05-03 1:21 ` David Lang
2004-05-04 17:27 ` Timothy Miller
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