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From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Marc Boucher <marc@linuxant.com>
Cc: "'Sean Estabrooks'" <seanlkml@rogers.com>,
	"'Paul Wagland'" <paul@wagland.net>,
	"'Rik van Riel'" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"'Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz'" <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
	"'Peter Williams'" <peterw@aurema.com>,
	Hua Zhong <hzhong@cisco.com>,
	"'lkml - Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	koke@sindominio.net, "'Rusty Russell'" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	"'David Gibson'" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: A compromise that could have been reached.  Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:38:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4092C751.9060603@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58E313D6-9AEA-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com>



Marc Boucher wrote:
> 
> Indeed. The driver in question contains 8 interdependent modules. What 
> we were thinking of doing to settle the issue short-term in a fair way 
> for both our users and kernel developers, is removing the \0 from the 
> central one (hsfengine), causing the kernel to be properly tainted and 
> one instance of the messages to be automatically printed when the driver 
> is used.
> 
> Hopefully the community will view this as an acceptable compromise. Once 
> patches have propagated onto people's computers, we will be happy to 
> remove all \0's completely.
> 

At this point, you're not going to get any slack.  If this is what you'd 
done to start with, you might have gotten away with it.  As it stands, 
you appear to be unwilling to comply with the rules, except as a last 
resort when you've been flamed for days.

I think what you need to do right now is do a lot of begging.  I agree 
that in principle, it's only technically necessary to have one of the 
modules taint the kernel.  But it's still "bad" to lie about the module 
license and should only be done after much scrutiny and discussion.

So if everyone who has a stake in this agrees to let you do it, then go 
ahead.  Otherwise, sorry Charley, but you're SOL.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-30 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <009701c42edf$25e47390$ca41cb3f@amer.cisco.com>
     [not found] ` <40929F5B.9090603@techsource.com>
2004-04-30 18:58   ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Hua Zhong
2004-04-30 20:14   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-04-30 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 19:37   ` Hua Zhong
2004-04-30 22:47     ` Allowing only "-g" compiled modules! (was: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-30 20:11   ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 20:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 20:39       ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 20:44         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 20:53           ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 21:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 21:10             ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 20:46         ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 20:34     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-04-30 20:47     ` A compromise that could have been reached. " Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 21:07       ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 21:16         ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-30 21:38         ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2004-04-30 22:05           ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01  2:36           ` Tim Connors
2004-05-01  0:40     ` Jorge Bernal
2004-05-01  5:07     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-01 19:12       ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 19:27         ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-01 19:32         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-05-01 19:33         ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 22:14           ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-05-01 19:47         ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-05-01 20:53           ` [PATCH] clarify message and give support contact for non-GPL modules Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 21:34             ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 21:48               ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 21:53                 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 22:22                 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 22:53                   ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 23:10                     ` viro
2004-05-02  7:04                       ` Xavier Bestel
2004-05-04 17:06                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-05-01 22:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-01 23:28                   ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-02  0:22                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-02  1:02                       ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-02 12:43                         ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-02 13:05                           ` Paul Rolland
2004-05-02 15:35                             ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-02 15:45                               ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-04 17:09                     ` Timothy Miller
2004-05-01 20:47         ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-01 20:58           ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-03  0:04         ` Horst von Brand

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