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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com>,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com, alexeyk@mysql.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: Random file I/O regressions in 2.6
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:58:01 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4096DC89.5020300@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040503145922.5a7dee73.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 13:57, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>>>Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>The place which needs attention is handle_ra_miss().  But first I'd like to
>>>>>reacquaint myself with the intent behind the lazy-readahead patch.  Was
>>>>>never happy with the complexity and special-cases which that introduced.
>>>>
>>>>lazy-readahead has no role to play here.
>>>
>>Andrew,
>>
>>Could you please clarify how this things become to be dependent on
>>read-ahead at all.
> 
> 
> readahead is currently the only means by which we build up nice large
> multi-page BIOs.
> 
> 
>>At my understanding read-ahead it to catch sequential (or other) access
>>pattern and do some advance reading, so instead of 16K request we do
>>128K request, or something similar.
> 
> 
> That's one of its usage patterns.  It's also supposed to detect the
> fixed-sized-reads-seeking-all-over-the-place situation.  In which case it's
> supposed to submit correctly-sized multi-page BIOs.  But it's not working
> right for this workload.
> 
> A naive solution would be to add special-case code which always does the
> fixed-size readahead after a seek.  Basically that's
> 
> 	if (ra->next_size == -1UL)
> 		force_page_cache_readahead(...)
> 

I think a better solution to this case would be to ensure the
readahead window is always min(size of read, some large number);

The size of the read is basically a free and accurate "hint" to
the minimum size of the required readahead.

Either that or do a simple "preread" while you're still in the
read request window, and run readahead when that completes.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-03 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-02 19:57 Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-03 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-03 18:08   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 20:22     ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 20:57       ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 21:37         ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-03 21:50           ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 22:01             ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-03 21:59           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 22:07             ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 23:58             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-05-04  0:10               ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04  0:19                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04  0:50                   ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04  6:29                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 15:03                       ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 19:39                         ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 19:48                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 19:58                             ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 21:51                               ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 22:29                                 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 23:01                           ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-04 23:20                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-05 22:04                               ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-06  8:43                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-06 18:13                                   ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-06 21:49                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-06 23:49                                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-07  1:29                                         ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-10 19:50                                   ` Ram Pai
2004-05-10 20:21                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-10 22:39                                       ` Ram Pai
2004-05-10 23:07                                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-11 20:51                                           ` Ram Pai
2004-05-11 21:17                                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-13 20:41                                               ` Ram Pai
2004-05-17 17:30                                                 ` Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 [patch+results] Ram Pai
2004-05-20  1:06                                                   ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-20  1:31                                                     ` Ram Pai
2004-05-21 19:32                                                       ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-20  5:49                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-20 21:59                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-20 22:23                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-21  7:31                                                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-21  7:50                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-21  8:40                                                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-21  8:56                                                             ` Spam: " Andrew Morton
2004-05-21 22:24                                                               ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-21 21:13                                                       ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-26  4:43                                                         ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-11 22:26                                           ` Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 Bill Davidsen
2004-05-04  1:15                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 11:39                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04  8:27                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-04  8:47                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04  8:50                     ` Arjan van de Ven

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