From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com>,
alexeyk@mysql.com, linuxram@us.ibm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: Random file I/O regressions in 2.6
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 09:49:24 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <409ACF04.8010805@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040506144933.1918317f.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 01:43, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>>
>>>One thing I note about this test is that it generates a huge number of
>>>inode writes. atime updates from the reads and mtime updates from the
>>>writes. Suppressing them doesn't actually make a lot of performance
>>>difference, but that is with writeback caching enabled. I expect that with
>>>a writethrough cache these will really hurt.
>>
>>Perhaps. By the way is there a way to disable update time modification
>>as well ?
>
>
> No, there is not.
>
>
>>It would make quite a good sense for partition used for
>>Database needs - you do not need last modification time in most cases.
>
>
> First up, one needs to remove the inode_update_time() call from
> generic_file_aio_write_nolock() and run the tests. If this (and noatime)
> indeed makes a significant difference (probably on writethrough-caching
> disks) then yup, we should do something.
>
> `nomtime' would be simple enough. But another option would be to arrange
> for a/m/ctime dirtiness to not cause an inode writeout in fsync().
> Instead, only sync the a/m/ctime-dirty inodes via sync, umount and pdflush.
>
> That way, the inodes get written every thirty seconds rather than once per
> second.
>
> It's probably not standards-compliant, but shoot me. Who cares if the
> mtimes come up 30 seconds out of date after a system crash?
>
> `nomtime' would be simpler and safer to implement, but not as nice.
>
> But we need those numbers first. I'll take a look.
>
Can they use fdatasync? Does it do the right thing on Linux?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-06 23:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-02 19:57 Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-03 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-03 18:08 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 20:22 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 21:37 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-03 21:50 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 22:01 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-03 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 22:07 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 23:58 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04 0:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 0:19 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04 0:50 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 6:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 15:03 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 19:39 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 19:48 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 19:58 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 21:51 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 22:29 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 23:01 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-04 23:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-05 22:04 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-06 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-06 18:13 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-06 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-06 23:49 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-05-07 1:29 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-10 19:50 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-10 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-10 22:39 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-10 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-11 20:51 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-11 21:17 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-13 20:41 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-17 17:30 ` Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 [patch+results] Ram Pai
2004-05-20 1:06 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-20 1:31 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-21 19:32 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-20 5:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-20 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-20 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-21 7:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-21 7:50 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-21 8:40 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-21 8:56 ` Spam: " Andrew Morton
2004-05-21 22:24 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-21 21:13 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-26 4:43 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-11 22:26 ` Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 Bill Davidsen
2004-05-04 1:15 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 11:39 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04 8:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-04 8:47 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 8:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
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