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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@osdl.org, ak@muc.de, ashok.raj@intel.com, hch@infradead.org,
	jbarnes@sgi.com, joe.korty@ccur.com, manfred@colorfullife.com,
	colpatch@us.ibm.com, mikpe@csd.uu.se, Simon.Derr@bull.net,
	wli@holomorphy.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpumask 5/10 rewrite cpumask.h - single bitmap based implementation
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:35:39 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40C00A2B.1040606@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040603223005.01bbab21.pj@sgi.com>

Paul Jackson wrote:
>>I don't see what you gain from having the cpumask type but having
>>to get at its internals with the bitop functions.
> 
> 
> The essential gain, in my view, of cpumask, is that it encapsulates
> the value NR_CPUS.  cpumasks are bitmaps of length NR_CPUS.
> 
> Yes, there is an open issue of whether cpumasks are worth it.
> I think enough code has taken to them that they are.
> 

Yes, I'm all for the full cpumask abstraction.

> The getting at internals (via cpus_addr(), I'm guessing you mean)
> was a workaround for some code that messed with cpumasks and simple
> unsigned longs as if they were interoperable.  "cpus_addr" should
> be marked deprecated, and its use coded out.  Its remaining uses
> are in arch-specific areas where I lack the expertise and testing
> environment to accomplish such.
> 
> I needed some legacy mechanism such as this, in order to avoid
> having such existing uses bring the entire cpumask overhaul to
> a screeching halt.
> 

No, by getting at the internals, I mean the internals of the
type itself. Its implementation, if you will. (Well I guess
that also *includes* users getting the address and derefing it
as an unsigned long).

But no, I was talking about something more general. Rusty wrote:

 >>+#define cpus_addr(src) ((src).bits)
 >
 >
 > We've discussed this before when talking about whether it'd be easier to
 > just make people use raw bitop functions directly, so I know we have
 > philosophical differences here.
 >
 > So, opinion alert: if I were doing this, I'd probably live without this
 > macro; in my mind it crosses the "too much abstraction" line.  I did
 > momentarily wonder what this macro did when I saw it used in the
 > succeeding patches.

Now in my opinion, it is either all or nothing. I could be wrong,
but I don't think there is any point with a nice cpumask type if
you are just going to get inside it and do bitmap operations on it.

In summary, I think your patches are nice :)

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-04  5:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-03 16:43 [PATCH] Bitmap and Cpumask Cleanup - Overview Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCH] cpumask 1/10 cpu_present_map real even on non-smp Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:09 ` [PATCH] cpumask 2/10 bitmap cleanup preparation for cpumask overhaul Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:09 ` [PATCH] cpumask 3/10 bitmap inlining and optimizations Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:09 ` [PATCH] cpumask 4/10 uninline find_next_bit on ia64 Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:10 ` [PATCH] cpumask 5/10 rewrite cpumask.h - single bitmap based implementation Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  0:07   ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-04  0:25     ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-04  2:58       ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  2:47     ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  2:54       ` David S. Miller
2004-06-04  5:02         ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  5:01           ` David S. Miller
2004-06-04  1:47   ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-04  2:02     ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-04  2:19       ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-04  5:18       ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  5:22         ` David S. Miller
2004-06-04  6:57           ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  9:31         ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-04  9:37           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04  9:46             ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-04  9:59               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 11:16                 ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-04 11:27                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 11:32                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 16:23                       ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04 16:28                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 17:47                           ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04 18:12                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 18:20                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 18:27                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-04 18:38                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-05  2:51                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-05  3:29                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 18:42                               ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04 18:42                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-05  6:48                                   ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-06  2:07                               ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-06 12:16                                 ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-06 12:13                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-06 12:28                                     ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-06 12:36                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-06 13:42                                         ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-06 23:20                                   ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-07  6:44                                     ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  9:41           ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-05  7:01             ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04 16:03           ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04 16:56             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 17:29               ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04 17:52                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 19:01                   ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04 19:08               ` Anton Blanchard
2004-06-04 19:17                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 20:28                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-07  7:55                   ` Anton Blanchard
2004-06-05  7:28                 ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-06  8:07                   ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-06  8:16                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-05  0:05               ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-05  1:31                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-05  8:04                   ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-05  8:26                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-06  8:40                       ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-06 12:34                         ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-07 16:54                       ` fix up compat_sched_[get/set]affinity Joe Korty
2004-06-07 17:07                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04  5:30       ` [PATCH] cpumask 5/10 rewrite cpumask.h - single bitmap based implementation Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  5:35         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-06-04  5:40           ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-04  5:53             ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-04  6:47             ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  4:31     ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  8:19   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04  8:43     ` Keith Owens
2004-06-04  9:54       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04 17:08         ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-09 16:38         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-04  9:14     ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:10 ` [PATCH] cpumask 6/10 remove 26 no longer used cpumask*.h files Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:10 ` [PATCH] cpumask 7/10 remove obsolete cpumask macro uses - i386 arch Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:10 ` [PATCH] cpumask 8/10 remove obsolete cpumask macro uses - other archs Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:11 ` [PATCH] cpumask 9/10 Remove no longer used obsolete macro emulation Paul Jackson
2004-06-03 17:11 ` [PATCH] cpumask 10/10 optimize various uses of new cpumasks Paul Jackson
2004-06-04  4:27   ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-04  4:40     ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-04  4:51     ` Paul Jackson
2004-06-09  0:09   ` PATCH] cpumask 11/10 comment, spacing tweaks Paul Jackson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-06 15:07 [PATCH] cpumask 5/10 rewrite cpumask.h - single bitmap based implementation Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-06 16:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-06 17:46   ` Paul Jackson

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