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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	ktech@wanadoo.es,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.7-rc1 breaks forcedeth
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 14:13:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40C35ED7.1080000@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0406060957410.7010@ppc970.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> But it's usually a good thing to try to reset a device as much as possible 
> when you probe for it. If for no other reason than the fact that then 
> you'll have it in a "known state", and hopefully there won't be as many 
> surprises..


Strongly agreed.  I stress this, in Linux driver writing talks and 
rants, to whomever will listen as "the proper way to do things in Linux".

Presuming things about a device's state upon entry to the driver has led 
to bugs in the past.  Popular bugs include assuming (a) MAC address 
registers hold a valid/useful value or (b) ethernet NIC's DMA engine is 
not active.  Both of these are quite often not true when you take into 
account driver re-loads, warm reboots, and firmware features such as USB 
kbd/mouse/storage or PXE booting from a network.

A good driver unconditionally makes sure the device is inactive in its 
probe function (struct pci_driver::probe), before registering itself 
with any kernel subsystems.  This must also be done before request_irq 
and before enabling the bus-mastering bit in PCI_COMMAND register.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-06 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-06  1:59 2.6.7-rc1 breaks forcedeth ktech
2004-06-06  3:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-06  8:36   ` Manfred Spraul
2004-06-06 17:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-06 18:13       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-06-06 18:21   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-06 18:32     ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-16 18:40 David Mansfield
2004-06-06 13:49 jjluza
     [not found] <E1BWxTh-0002dx-KR@mb06.in.mad.eresmas.com>
2004-06-06 13:31 ` Daniel Schmitt
2004-06-06 12:10 ktech
2004-06-06 12:53 ` Vincent van de Camp
2004-06-06 13:40   ` Manfred Spraul
2004-06-06 14:17 ` Manfred Spraul
2004-06-05 23:41 Luis Miguel García Mancebo
2004-06-05 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-31  0:29 jjluza
2004-05-30 17:54 Luis Miguel García Mancebo
2004-05-30 20:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-30 15:57 Lee Howard
2004-05-30 17:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-30 22:59   ` Lee Howard

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