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From: Zoltan Menyhart <Zoltan.Menyhart_AT_bull.net@nospam.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Who owns those locks ?
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:03:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40C572C8.20B13640@nospam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200406070906.54132.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com

Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> 
> There are a couple issues I was thinking of when
> I wrote "clean it up, pull the bits together...":
> 
>         1) Tony Luck's question about what happens when
>            "shr.u r30 = r13, 12" yields zero in the 32-bit
>            lock value.  I'm not the 2.6 maintainer, but I'd
>            sure like to see some solution for this.  It would
>            be a nightmare to debug a system where one random
>            task didn't release locks correctly.  Since other
>            arches use a trick like this, I'm hoping they've
>            figured out something we can copy (I haven't looked).

Sure, I did not want to make an error like saying:
"640 K ought to be enough for everyone".

I'm afraid, there is no perfect solution.

- We do not want to change the lock size to 64 bits, do we ?
  -- Couple of new alignment problems.

- You keep my code, it is correct for a memory size up to 16 Tbytes.

- You shift by PAGE_SHIFT, rather than by 12 (using page size of
  16 Kbytes) => up to  64 Tbytes.
  -- Not that much human readable lock values.

- You move to PAGE_SIZE = 64 K, you get human readable lock values
  up to 256 Tbytes.

- You could store the "PID | miraculous bit" (to avoid PID = 0
  problem).
  -- Somewhat longer code.

I expect the main stream IA64 kernel to move to PAGE_SIZE = 64 K by
the time there will be machines with more than 16 Tbytes of memory
(as the processors have got just a very limited number of
translation look aside buffer entries, and the ever growing
application / memory sizes result in higher TLB miss rate unless the
page size increases).


Regards,

Zoltán

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-08  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-12  9:56 Who owns those locks ? Zoltan Menyhart
2004-05-13 18:43 ` Anton Blanchard
2004-06-03 17:39 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2004-06-07  8:58   ` Zoltan Menyhart
2004-06-07 15:06     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2004-06-08  8:03       ` Zoltan Menyhart [this message]
2004-06-08 15:05         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2004-06-08 15:38           ` Zoltan Menyhart
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-12 10:25 Luck, Tony
2004-05-12 11:06 ` Zoltan Menyhart
2004-05-12 11:43 Luck, Tony

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