From: Kalin KOZHUHAROV <kalin@ThinRope.net>
To: Koblinger Egmont <egmont@uhulinux.hu>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: information leak in vga console scrollback buffer
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:48:52 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40CBC094.6050901@ThinRope.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58L0.0406122301250.25004@sziami.cs.bme.hu>
Koblinger Egmont wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
>
>
>>>Rationale? (At least an rtfm-like pointer to that?)
>>
>>Maybe I didn't full understand you. Generally I find it desirable to
>>be able to read things that scrolled off the screen a long time ago.
>>It's very useful for unattended machines if I need to 'look' back.
>
>
> Generally console's scrollback buffer disappears as soon as you switch to
> another console.
>
> It'd be a really nice idea if all the consoles had a configurable amount
> of scrollback buffer which is always remembered. IMHO with todays machines
> having a scrollback buffer of 1000 lines for 6 or a little bit more
> consoles (at most 63 IIRC) is affordable as well as the processor time
> needed to copy the data from/to vga/normal memory on each console switch
> and at every Nth Shift+PageUp (no matter what N is). But this is a whole
> different story.
>
> What I'm talking about is: normally after people switch away from a
> console they assume that the scrollback buffer is no longer available
> since this is the behavior they experience normally. E.g. Z does a 'cat
> my-long-private-file' and then logs out. Then even if getty clears the
> screen, one can press Shift+PageUp to go back and read parts of this file.
> Z is about to leave the computer but don't want others to be able to
> scroll back with Shift+PageUp. So switches console (Alt+Fx) and the
> scrollback buffer is gone. He is happy. But shouldn't be.
>
> With the trick I described it is possible to bring back some random parts
> of previous texts, often some garbage with stupid flashing characters, but
> maybe parts of Z's my-long-private-file. The behavior seems to be random
> to me, uncontrollable by the user (I see no way to force private data to
> be cleared from the vga buffer) and clearly not intentional.
>
> Please try what I wrote, I'm sure that you misunderstood me (I'm trying to
> write as clear as I can but I'm not native English speaker and not even
> good in English, so it might be that my bugreport is a little bit hard to
> understand). I'm sure not talking about a feature, nor am I a Linux newbie
> who has just seen Shift+PageUp a few days ago for the first time (even
> though I'm very far from being a kernel hacker ;-))
>
OK, I think I got what you are trying to point out.
To reproduce:
1. login to a (vga) console.
2. less /etc/services; press space t oscroll a few screens
3. logout
4. login again on the same console (possibly as a different user)
5. less /etc/resolv.conf
6. press UpArrow, then Shift+PgUp
What is expected:
screen should not scroll past your file.
What happens:
You can view the previous text (from /etc/services)!!!
So the point is that this buffer is persistend across logout/login, which is a security bug.
And I guess LKML is not the place for it, logout should clear the buffer IMHO.
BTW, using agetty here.
Kalin.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-13 2:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-12 20:01 information leak in vga console scrollback buffer Egmont Koblinger
2004-06-12 20:43 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-06-12 20:54 ` Koblinger Egmont
2004-06-12 20:59 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-06-12 21:22 ` Koblinger Egmont
2004-06-13 2:48 ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV [this message]
2004-06-13 3:47 ` David Lang
2004-06-13 4:08 ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2004-06-13 8:33 ` Koblinger Egmont
2004-06-13 10:52 ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2004-06-13 11:48 ` Koblinger Egmont
2004-06-22 15:32 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 18:47 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-06-24 21:41 ` Pavel Machek
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