From: 4Front Technologies <dev@opensound.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Stop the Linux kernel madness
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:09:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D232AD.4020708@opensound.com> (raw)
Hi Folks,
I am writing this message to bring a huge problem to light. SuSE has been systematically
forking the linux kernel and shipping all kinds of modifications and still call their
kernels 2.6.5 (for example).
Either they ship the stock Linux kernel sources or they stop calling their distributions
as Linux-2.6.x based.
Kernel headers are being changed willy-nilly and SuSE are completely running rough-shod
over the linux kernel with the result ONLY software from SuSE works.
Enclosed is a simple diff between SuSE's so-called Linux 2.6.5-7.75-bigsmp
and the Linux 2.6.5 kernel sources from www.kernel.org:
Files linux-2.6.5/arch/i386/boot98/setup.S and linux-2.6.5-7.75/arch/i386/boot98/setup.S differ
Files linux-2.6.5/arch/i386/defconfig and linux-2.6.5-7.75/arch/i386/defconfig differ
Only in linux-2.6.5-7.75/arch/i386: defconfig.bigsmp
Only in linux-2.6.5-7.75/arch/i386: defconfig.debug
Only in linux-2.6.5-7.75/arch/i386: defconfig.default
Only in linux-2.6.5-7.75/arch/i386: defconfig.smp
Only in linux-2.6.5-7.75/arch/i386: defconfig.um
I would invite anybody to do a diff between the Linux 2.6.5 from kernel.org and
SuSE 9.1's Linux 2.6.5 kernels.
This is absolutely not our problem and we don't know who to contact at SuSE to fix
this problem. Our software works perfectly with Fedora/Debian/Gentoo/Mandrake/Redhat/etc.
I think SuSE's lying when they call their Linux kernel a 2.6.5 kernel when there are
massive differences. They aren't even compatible with Linux 2.6.6.
I urge all those who have the power to sway distributions to immediately fix their
kernels so that small developers like us don't have to keep updating our software.
This is worse than Microsoft's practices.
best regards
Dev Mazumdar
President
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Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-18 0:09 4Front Technologies [this message]
2004-06-18 0:20 ` Stop the Linux kernel madness Kyle McMartin
2004-06-18 14:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-06-18 14:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-06-19 2:36 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-18 0:21 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-18 0:27 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 0:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-18 5:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-18 10:39 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-06-18 15:48 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-18 17:30 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-18 17:53 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 18:28 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 18:23 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 18:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-18 20:31 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-18 21:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-18 19:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-18 19:43 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 19:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-06-18 20:12 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 19:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-06-18 19:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-18 20:29 ` David Lang
2004-06-18 20:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-20 12:56 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-20 22:11 ` David Lang
2004-06-21 1:16 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-21 7:07 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21 7:25 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-06-21 8:27 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21 13:12 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-22 2:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-22 7:54 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-22 11:19 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-22 16:48 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-22 17:46 ` V13
2004-06-19 16:35 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-18 20:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-18 20:59 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-19 16:36 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-19 18:01 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-19 21:12 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 15:43 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-18 0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 1:29 ` Nicholas S. Wourms
2004-06-18 8:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-18 14:43 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 15:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-18 15:33 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 17:17 ` Paul Jakma
2004-06-18 18:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 19:02 ` Tim Bird
2004-06-18 19:45 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 19:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 20:08 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:03 ` jsimmons
2004-06-18 21:10 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:13 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-18 21:38 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 23:18 ` jsimmons
2004-06-19 8:19 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-19 3:34 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-22 13:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 22:05 ` viro
2004-06-18 22:10 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-19 12:42 ` Francois Romieu
2004-06-19 13:55 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-20 10:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-06-22 19:34 ` jsimmons
2004-06-18 20:20 ` Tim Bird
2004-06-18 20:50 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:05 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:03 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-19 12:09 ` John Jasen
2004-06-19 12:29 ` lkml
[not found] ` <2c0942db040618100264ea6b7d@mail.gmail.com>
2004-06-18 17:27 ` Ray Lee
2004-06-18 20:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 21:03 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 21:26 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:17 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-19 20:59 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-06-18 0:44 ` viro
2004-06-18 1:00 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:20 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 1:33 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 10:12 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 17:37 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-18 20:26 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 21:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:26 ` Matt Domsch
2004-06-18 23:13 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-19 8:44 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-19 2:59 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-18 9:57 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-18 13:47 ` Olaf Hering
2004-06-18 14:03 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-18 14:59 ` Duncan Sands
2004-06-18 1:20 ` viro
2004-06-18 1:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-18 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-18 1:37 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:41 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-18 2:17 ` Erik Harrison
2004-06-18 7:45 ` John Bradford
2004-06-18 9:05 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 1:34 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-18 10:51 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-06-18 8:48 ` Flavio Stanchina
2004-06-18 10:25 ` Matthias Andree
2004-06-20 5:28 ` Ryan Anderson
2004-06-20 8:13 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-06-22 15:17 ` Matthias Andree
2004-06-22 18:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-18 15:42 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 1:07 ` thinkliberty
2004-06-18 1:12 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:21 ` CaT
2004-06-18 1:37 ` Bastiaan Spandaw
2004-06-18 1:46 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 2:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <40D259DD.6020604@opensound.com>
2004-06-18 22:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-18 5:54 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 8:50 ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-18 11:05 ` Redeeman
2004-06-18 15:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 15:51 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 16:53 ` Alex Goddard
2004-06-18 15:46 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-18 8:10 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-06-18 15:34 ` Timothy Miller
[not found] ` <mailman.1087541100.18231.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-06-18 19:47 ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-19 16:35 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-19 20:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-06-20 15:43 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-20 20:44 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-08 4:43 2.6.19-rc1: known regressions (v2) Trond Myklebust
2006-10-08 4:55 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <1160283948.10192.3.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
2006-10-08 6:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 7:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-10-08 17:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 17:34 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-08 17:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 18:04 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-08 18:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 18:22 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-09 1:49 ` Horst H. von Brand
2004-06-22 14:38 Stop the Linux kernel madness Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-22 15:12 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-22 17:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-22 18:42 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-22 19:52 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-23 14:58 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-23 15:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-23 16:03 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-23 18:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-06-23 18:27 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-05-28 1:55 ftp.kernel.org Ricky Beam
2004-05-28 2:29 ` ftp.kernel.org Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-28 4:21 ` ftp.kernel.org Ricky Beam
2004-05-28 8:41 ` ftp.kernel.org Mark Watts
2004-05-28 6:21 ` ftp.kernel.org Chris Shoemaker
2004-05-28 15:01 ` ftp.kernel.org Theodore Ts'o
2004-05-28 16:32 ` ftp.kernel.org Andreas Dilger
2004-05-29 15:30 ` ftp.kernel.org Daniel Egger
2004-05-30 0:29 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-30 9:43 ` ftp.kernel.org Andrew Walrond
2004-06-13 22:22 ` ftp.kernel.org Pedro Larroy
2004-05-28 19:08 ` ftp.kernel.org Chris Shoemaker
2004-05-28 22:15 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-28 8:55 ` ftp.kernel.org Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-05-28 11:10 ` ftp.kernel.org Mark Watts
2004-05-28 13:57 ` ftp.kernel.org Keith Owens
2004-05-28 22:16 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-29 21:05 ` ftp.kernel.org Horst von Brand
2004-05-30 6:52 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-28 22:17 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
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