From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
mark_salyzyn@adaptec.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH: Further aacraid work
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:57:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D2842F.6090304@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040617205414.GE8705@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 09:10:43PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
>>The AMD64 IOMMU could do it too (and the code to do it exists in
>>2.6). But the problem is that the current IO layer doesn't provide a
>>sufficient fallback path when this fails. You have to promise in
>>advance that you can merge and then later it's too late to change your
>>mind without signalling an IO error.
>
>
> I would rather see it below the I/O layer for things like AMD64. The
> reason I say this is that many drivers would suffer from iommu merging not
> gain, and others may have limits.
This reminds me of good ole IDE: the first-generation SATA controllers
carry forward the limits of the older PCI IDE controllers: neither the
S/G table nor any single S/G entry may span a 64K boundary.
In theory the block layer / SCSI layer DMA boundary stuff takes care of
this -- but iommu merging _undoes_ the segment splitting that the
hardware _requires_. Thus, in ata_fill_sg in libata-core.c, I re-split
the S/G list after DMA-mapping it. A bit lame.
James and BenH discussed a solution at the DMA level, but I don't think
anything ever happened.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-18 5:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <286Qp-5EU-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-06-17 19:10 ` PATCH: Further aacraid work Andi Kleen
2004-06-17 20:54 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 21:13 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 21:25 ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-18 15:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 5:57 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-06-18 14:07 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 15:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-29 20:55 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-29 23:22 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-30 19:52 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-30 19:59 ` Dario
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-29 19:27 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-29 20:20 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-29 20:42 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-29 18:53 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-29 19:03 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-28 13:17 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-18 20:53 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-17 17:54 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-17 20:38 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 20:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-17 20:56 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 15:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-18 20:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-27 17:33 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 14:39 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-17 14:55 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 14:58 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 15:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-17 19:16 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 16:32 ` Clay Haapala
2004-06-17 16:37 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 16:46 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 15:11 ` Anton Blanchard
2004-06-17 12:53 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-17 13:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-06-17 13:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-17 13:55 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 13:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-17 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:04 Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-16 21:40 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-16 21:48 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-16 22:06 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-29 17:48 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-29 18:27 ` Mark Haverkamp
2004-06-29 18:37 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-30 2:02 ` bm
2004-06-30 16:07 ` Alan Cox
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