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From: Jamey Hicks <jamey.hicks@hp.com>
To: Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com, tony@atomide.com,
	david-b@pacbell.net, joshua@joshuawise.com
Subject: Re: DMA API issues
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:48:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D3471A.4020105@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040618122112.D3851@home.com>

Matt Porter wrote:

>On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 02:33:18PM -0400, Jamey Hicks wrote:
>  
>
>Yes, it can be cleaner, but it's not something I would say is
>completely broken with the DMA API.  It does provide a way to
>make your device specific implementation, regardless of whether
>it's managed ideally via a struct device pointer.  Migrating to
>dev->dma* sounds suspiciously like a 2.7ism.
>  
>
The DMA API is certainly not completely broken.  Except for page_to_dma 
needing struct device the interface could be implemented with per-device 
dma operation implementations.

>>described, but there is already a good start towards that support in 
>>2.6.  The other thing that might be needed is passing device to 
>>    
>>
>
>Where's that code?
>
>  
>
arch/arm/common/dmabounce.c

>>page_to_dma so that device specific dma addresses can be constructed.
>>    
>>
>
>A struct device argument to page_to_dma seems like a no brainer to be
>included.
> 
>  
>
>>Deepak Saxena wrote a pretty good summary as part if the discussion 
>>about this issue on the linux-arm-kernel mailing list:
>>
>>http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2004-June/022796.html
>>    
>>
>
>Ahh, ok.  Deepak and I have discussed this idea F2F on a several
>occassions, I recall he needed it for the small floating PCI window
>he has to manage on the IXP* ports.  It may help in some embedded
>PPC areas as well.
>
>  
>
>>I think I'm looking for something like the PARISC hppa_dma_ops but more 
>>generic:
>>  
>>http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2004-June/022813.html
>>    
>>
>
>I see that's somewhat like what David Brownell suggested before...a single
>pointer to a set of dma ops from struct device.  hppa_dma_ops translated
>into a generic dma_ops entity with fields corresponding to existing
>DMA API calls would be a good starting point. We can get rid of some
>address translation hacks in a lot of custom embedded PPC drivers
>with something like this.
>  
>
Yes, I think this would be generally useful.

Jamey



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-19  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-18 16:59 DMA API issues Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:07 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:19   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:58     ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:33   ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:21     ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 19:43       ` Russell King
2004-06-21 13:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-21 23:08           ` Russell King
2004-06-22  2:06             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-22  3:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22  3:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 10:40                   ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 12:34                     ` Russell King
2004-06-23 15:36                       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 15:44                         ` Russell King
2004-06-23 16:01                           ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 16:10                             ` Russell King
2004-06-22 10:48             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-18 19:48       ` Jamey Hicks [this message]
2004-06-18 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:12   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-06-18 23:27     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:26   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:30     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <20040619005714.37b68453.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]           ` <40D3838B.2070608@pobox.com>
     [not found]             ` <20040619011621.4491600a.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]               ` <40D3872F.5010007@pobox.com>
2004-06-19  0:34                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 21:15                   ` Tony Lindgren
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-18 18:20 James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:35 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:52   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:57     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:20       ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 19:44         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:57           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:08             ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 21:14               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 22:38                 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:07                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:31                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 18:23                     ` David Brownell
2004-06-19 20:41                       ` Russell King
2004-06-19 21:46                         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 22:49                           ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 13:37                             ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 15:50                               ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 16:26                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-20 16:57                                   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:15                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 16:46                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 18:02                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 19:27                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 19:34                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 20:07                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:18                               ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:02                         ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:25             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:29               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:51                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  0:04                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19  0:14                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  3:49                       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 20:59                         ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:30       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 19:56         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:22     ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:41       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:02         ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 20:07           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 20:24         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:20           ` Russell King
2004-06-18 23:20             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 18:25               ` Deepak Saxena

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