From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com, tony@atomide.com,
david-b@pacbell.net, jamey.hicks@hp.com, joshua@joshuawise.com,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Subject: Re: DMA API issues
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:08:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D359B3.6080400@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040618175902.778e616a.spyro@f2s.com>
Ian Molton wrote:
> Hi.
>
> This may have come up previously but I havent seen it, so...
>
> My colleagues and I are encountering a number of difficulties with the
> DMA API, to which a generic solution is required (or risk multiple
> architectures, busses, and devices going their own way...)
>
> Here is an example system that illustrates these problems:
>
> I have a System On Chip device which, among other functions, contains an
> OHCI controller and 32K of SRAM.
>
> heres the catch:- The OHCI controller has a different address space than
> the host bus, and worse, can *only* DMA data from its internal SRAM.
Unfortunately, I tend to think that you should not be using the DMA API
for this, since it's not host RAM.
There are loads of devices with on-board SRAM/DRAM/... you really have
to manage your own resources at that point.
I know that sucks, WRT driver re-use. Maybe you can wrap it inside the
OHCI driver, ohci_dma_alloc_xxx() etc. For the normal case, the wrapper
resolves directly to the DMA API. For the embedded case, the wrapper
does SRAM-specific stuff.
You _might_ convince the kernel DMA gurus that this could be done by
creating a driver-specific bus, and pointing struct device to that
internal bus, but that seems like an awful lot of work as opposed to the
wrappers.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-18 21:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-18 16:59 DMA API issues Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:07 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:19 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:58 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:33 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:21 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 19:43 ` Russell King
2004-06-21 13:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-21 23:08 ` Russell King
2004-06-22 2:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-22 3:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 3:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 10:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 12:34 ` Russell King
2004-06-23 15:36 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 15:44 ` Russell King
2004-06-23 16:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 16:10 ` Russell King
2004-06-22 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-18 19:48 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-06-18 22:12 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-06-18 23:27 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:26 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:30 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <20040619005714.37b68453.spyro@f2s.com>
[not found] ` <40D3838B.2070608@pobox.com>
[not found] ` <20040619011621.4491600a.spyro@f2s.com>
[not found] ` <40D3872F.5010007@pobox.com>
2004-06-19 0:34 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 21:15 ` Tony Lindgren
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-18 18:20 James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:35 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:52 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:57 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:20 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 19:44 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:57 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:08 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 21:14 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 22:38 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:07 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:31 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 18:23 ` David Brownell
2004-06-19 20:41 ` Russell King
2004-06-19 21:46 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 22:49 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 13:37 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 15:50 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 16:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-20 16:57 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:15 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 16:46 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 18:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 19:27 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 19:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 20:07 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:18 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:02 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:25 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:29 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:51 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 0:04 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 0:14 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 3:49 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 20:59 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:30 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 19:56 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:22 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:41 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 20:07 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 20:24 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:20 ` Russell King
2004-06-18 23:20 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 18:25 ` Deepak Saxena
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