From: 4Front Technologies <dev@opensound.com>
To: Denis Vlasenko <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
Cc: Hannu Savolainen <hannu@opensound.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Stop the Linux kernel madness
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 09:48:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D862CA.4050703@opensound.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200406221419.46035.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 June 2004 10:54, Hannu Savolainen wrote:
>
>>In the long term frequent changes in kernel interfaces cause problems
>>because drivers that try to stay compatible with as many kernel versions
>>as possible will start looking like #ifdef spaghetti.
>
>
> What's the point in staying "compatible with as many kernels versions
> as possible"? IMHO it's enough to be able to build and work
> with latest 2.6, latest 2.4 and maybe latest 2.2. Not _that_
> much of #ifdefs.
>
> (/me was looking into ntp code recently. *That* is #ifdef hell)
> --
> vda
>
Hi Denis,
You'd be surprised how many people are still running Redhat 7.3 or howmany
people are still running some version of Linux 2.4.2x. Sometimes its not easy
telling the customer to upgrade to the latest Linux kernel from www.kernel.org
because they don't have the expertise to compile kernels - heck some
distributions don't even install gcc/make unless you select "Development System"
during installation. (FreeBSD is more sane in that regard that they install
gcc/make with the base system).
best regards
Dev Mazumdar
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2004-06-18 0:09 Stop the Linux kernel madness 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 0:20 ` Kyle McMartin
2004-06-18 14:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-06-18 14:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-06-19 2:36 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-18 0:21 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-18 0:27 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 0:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-18 5:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-18 10:39 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-06-18 15:48 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-18 17:30 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-18 17:53 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 18:28 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 18:23 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 18:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-18 20:31 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-18 21:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-18 19:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-18 19:43 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 19:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-06-18 20:12 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 19:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-06-18 19:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-18 20:29 ` David Lang
2004-06-18 20:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-20 12:56 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-20 22:11 ` David Lang
2004-06-21 1:16 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-21 7:07 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21 7:25 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-06-21 8:27 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21 13:12 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-22 2:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-22 7:54 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-22 11:19 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-22 16:48 ` 4Front Technologies [this message]
2004-06-22 17:46 ` V13
2004-06-19 16:35 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-18 20:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-18 20:59 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-19 16:36 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-19 18:01 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-19 21:12 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 15:43 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-18 0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 1:29 ` Nicholas S. Wourms
2004-06-18 8:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-18 14:43 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 15:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-18 15:33 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 17:17 ` Paul Jakma
2004-06-18 18:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 19:02 ` Tim Bird
2004-06-18 19:45 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 19:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 20:08 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:03 ` jsimmons
2004-06-18 21:10 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:13 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-18 21:38 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 23:18 ` jsimmons
2004-06-19 8:19 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-19 3:34 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-22 13:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 22:05 ` viro
2004-06-18 22:10 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-19 12:42 ` Francois Romieu
2004-06-19 13:55 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-20 10:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-06-22 19:34 ` jsimmons
2004-06-18 20:20 ` Tim Bird
2004-06-18 20:50 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:05 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:03 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-19 12:09 ` John Jasen
2004-06-19 12:29 ` lkml
[not found] ` <2c0942db040618100264ea6b7d@mail.gmail.com>
2004-06-18 17:27 ` Ray Lee
2004-06-18 20:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 21:03 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 21:26 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:17 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-19 20:59 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-06-18 0:44 ` viro
2004-06-18 1:00 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:20 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 1:33 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 10:12 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 17:37 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-18 20:26 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 21:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:26 ` Matt Domsch
2004-06-18 23:13 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-19 8:44 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-19 2:59 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-18 9:57 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-18 13:47 ` Olaf Hering
2004-06-18 14:03 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-18 14:59 ` Duncan Sands
2004-06-18 1:20 ` viro
2004-06-18 1:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-18 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-18 1:37 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:41 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-18 2:17 ` Erik Harrison
2004-06-18 7:45 ` John Bradford
2004-06-18 9:05 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 1:34 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-18 10:51 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-06-18 8:48 ` Flavio Stanchina
2004-06-18 10:25 ` Matthias Andree
2004-06-20 5:28 ` Ryan Anderson
2004-06-20 8:13 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-06-22 15:17 ` Matthias Andree
2004-06-22 18:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-18 15:42 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 1:07 ` thinkliberty
2004-06-18 1:12 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:21 ` CaT
2004-06-18 1:37 ` Bastiaan Spandaw
2004-06-18 1:46 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 2:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <40D259DD.6020604@opensound.com>
2004-06-18 22:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-18 5:54 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 8:50 ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-18 11:05 ` Redeeman
2004-06-18 15:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 15:51 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 16:53 ` Alex Goddard
2004-06-18 15:46 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-18 8:10 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-06-18 15:34 ` Timothy Miller
[not found] ` <mailman.1087541100.18231.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-06-18 19:47 ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-19 16:35 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-19 20:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-06-20 15:43 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-20 20:44 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
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2006-10-08 4:55 ` Adrian Bunk
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2006-10-08 6:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 7:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-10-08 17:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 17:34 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-08 17:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 18:04 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-08 18:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 18:22 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-09 1:49 ` Horst H. von Brand
2004-06-22 14:38 Stop the Linux kernel madness Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-22 15:12 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-22 17:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-22 18:42 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-22 19:52 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-23 14:58 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-23 15:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-23 16:03 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-23 18:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-06-23 18:27 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-05-28 1:55 ftp.kernel.org Ricky Beam
2004-05-28 2:29 ` ftp.kernel.org Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-28 4:21 ` ftp.kernel.org Ricky Beam
2004-05-28 8:41 ` ftp.kernel.org Mark Watts
2004-05-28 6:21 ` ftp.kernel.org Chris Shoemaker
2004-05-28 15:01 ` ftp.kernel.org Theodore Ts'o
2004-05-28 16:32 ` ftp.kernel.org Andreas Dilger
2004-05-29 15:30 ` ftp.kernel.org Daniel Egger
2004-05-30 0:29 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-30 9:43 ` ftp.kernel.org Andrew Walrond
2004-06-13 22:22 ` ftp.kernel.org Pedro Larroy
2004-05-28 19:08 ` ftp.kernel.org Chris Shoemaker
2004-05-28 22:15 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-28 8:55 ` ftp.kernel.org Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-05-28 11:10 ` ftp.kernel.org Mark Watts
2004-05-28 13:57 ` ftp.kernel.org Keith Owens
2004-05-28 22:16 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-29 21:05 ` ftp.kernel.org Horst von Brand
2004-05-30 6:52 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-28 22:17 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
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