From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Stop the Linux kernel madness
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:22:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D878DF.7060109@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040622151759.GB11760@merlin.emma.line.org>
Matthias Andree wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Ryan Anderson wrote:
>
>
>>>What do I need commercial OSS for after all when Alsa works well for me?
>>
>>Well, for what it's worth, there are a few devices out there for which
>>there is no open source driver:
>>0000:02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value]
>>EMU10k1X
>>(Dell Dimension 2100, *I think* - it's at work right, and I'm not)
>>
>>I believe 4Front provides the only driver for that specific device (it's
>>a crippled EMU10k1, probably what could be called a "WinSoundchip")
>
>
> So what? If the mutilated hardware requires a commercial driver one
> might as well spend the third-party driver cost on better hardware.
The beauty of FOSS is that people have a *choice* of where to spend
their money. If you prefer an o/s which limits your choices there is
one... upgrade the hardware is not always a choice, not all Linux
systems are PCs, even the Intel-based systems.
--
-bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
last possible moment - but no longer" -me
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-22 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-18 0:09 Stop the Linux kernel madness 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 0:20 ` Kyle McMartin
2004-06-18 14:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-06-18 14:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-06-19 2:36 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-18 0:21 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-18 0:27 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 0:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-18 5:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-18 10:39 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-06-18 15:48 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-18 17:30 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-18 17:53 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 18:28 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 18:23 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 18:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-18 20:31 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-18 21:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-18 19:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-18 19:43 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 19:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-06-18 20:12 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 19:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-06-18 19:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-18 20:29 ` David Lang
2004-06-18 20:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-20 12:56 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-20 22:11 ` David Lang
2004-06-21 1:16 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-21 7:07 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21 7:25 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-06-21 8:27 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21 13:12 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-22 2:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-22 7:54 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-22 11:19 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-22 16:48 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-22 17:46 ` V13
2004-06-19 16:35 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-18 20:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-18 20:59 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-19 16:36 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-19 18:01 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-19 21:12 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 15:43 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-18 0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 1:29 ` Nicholas S. Wourms
2004-06-18 8:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-18 14:43 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 15:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-18 15:33 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 17:17 ` Paul Jakma
2004-06-18 18:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 19:02 ` Tim Bird
2004-06-18 19:45 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 19:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 20:08 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:03 ` jsimmons
2004-06-18 21:10 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:13 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-18 21:38 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 23:18 ` jsimmons
2004-06-19 8:19 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-19 3:34 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-22 13:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 22:05 ` viro
2004-06-18 22:10 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-19 12:42 ` Francois Romieu
2004-06-19 13:55 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-20 10:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-06-22 19:34 ` jsimmons
2004-06-18 20:20 ` Tim Bird
2004-06-18 20:50 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:05 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:03 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-19 12:09 ` John Jasen
2004-06-19 12:29 ` lkml
[not found] ` <2c0942db040618100264ea6b7d@mail.gmail.com>
2004-06-18 17:27 ` Ray Lee
2004-06-18 20:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 21:03 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-18 21:26 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 21:17 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-19 20:59 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-06-18 0:44 ` viro
2004-06-18 1:00 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:20 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 1:33 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 10:12 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 17:37 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-18 20:26 ` Roman Zippel
2004-06-18 21:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:26 ` Matt Domsch
2004-06-18 23:13 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-19 8:44 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-19 2:59 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-18 9:57 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-18 13:47 ` Olaf Hering
2004-06-18 14:03 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-18 14:59 ` Duncan Sands
2004-06-18 1:20 ` viro
2004-06-18 1:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-18 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-18 1:37 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:41 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-18 2:17 ` Erik Harrison
2004-06-18 7:45 ` John Bradford
2004-06-18 9:05 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 1:34 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-18 10:51 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-06-18 8:48 ` Flavio Stanchina
2004-06-18 10:25 ` Matthias Andree
2004-06-20 5:28 ` Ryan Anderson
2004-06-20 8:13 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-06-22 15:17 ` Matthias Andree
2004-06-22 18:22 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-06-18 15:42 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 1:07 ` thinkliberty
2004-06-18 1:12 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 1:21 ` CaT
2004-06-18 1:37 ` Bastiaan Spandaw
2004-06-18 1:46 ` 4Front Technologies
2004-06-18 2:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <40D259DD.6020604@opensound.com>
2004-06-18 22:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-06-18 5:54 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 8:50 ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-18 11:05 ` Redeeman
2004-06-18 15:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 15:51 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 16:53 ` Alex Goddard
2004-06-18 15:46 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-18 6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-18 8:10 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-06-18 15:34 ` Timothy Miller
[not found] ` <mailman.1087541100.18231.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-06-18 19:47 ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-19 16:35 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-19 20:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-06-20 15:43 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-20 20:44 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
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2006-10-08 4:55 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <1160283948.10192.3.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
2006-10-08 6:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 7:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-10-08 17:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 17:34 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-08 17:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 18:04 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-08 18:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-08 18:22 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-10-09 1:49 ` Horst H. von Brand
2004-06-22 14:38 Stop the Linux kernel madness Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-22 15:12 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-22 17:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-22 18:42 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-22 19:52 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-23 14:58 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-23 15:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-23 16:03 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-23 18:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-06-23 18:27 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-05-28 1:55 ftp.kernel.org Ricky Beam
2004-05-28 2:29 ` ftp.kernel.org Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-28 4:21 ` ftp.kernel.org Ricky Beam
2004-05-28 8:41 ` ftp.kernel.org Mark Watts
2004-05-28 6:21 ` ftp.kernel.org Chris Shoemaker
2004-05-28 15:01 ` ftp.kernel.org Theodore Ts'o
2004-05-28 16:32 ` ftp.kernel.org Andreas Dilger
2004-05-29 15:30 ` ftp.kernel.org Daniel Egger
2004-05-30 0:29 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-30 9:43 ` ftp.kernel.org Andrew Walrond
2004-06-13 22:22 ` ftp.kernel.org Pedro Larroy
2004-05-28 19:08 ` ftp.kernel.org Chris Shoemaker
2004-05-28 22:15 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-28 8:55 ` ftp.kernel.org Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-05-28 11:10 ` ftp.kernel.org Mark Watts
2004-05-28 13:57 ` ftp.kernel.org Keith Owens
2004-05-28 22:16 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-29 21:05 ` ftp.kernel.org Horst von Brand
2004-05-30 6:52 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
2004-05-28 22:17 ` ftp.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin
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