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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Felipe Alfaro Solana <felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Staircase scheduler v7.4
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:11:22 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40E00AEA.4050709@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1088423626.1699.0.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com>

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Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:
| On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 18:49 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
|
|>Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:
|>
|>
|>>I have tested 2.6.7-bk10 plus from_2.6.7_to_staircase_7.7 patch and,
|>>while it's definitively better than previous versions, it still feels a
|>>little jerky when moving windows in X11 wrt to -mm3. Renicing makes it a
|>>little bit smoother, but not as much as -mm3 without renicing.
|>>
|>
|>You know, if renicing X makes it smoother, then that is a good thing
|>IMO. X needs large amounts of CPU and low latency in order to get
|>good interactivity, which is something the scheduler shouldn't give
|>to a process unless it is told to.
|
|
| But the problem here is that -ck3 with X reniced to -10 is not as smooth
| as -mm3 with no renicing. That's what worries me.

The design of staircase would make renicing normal interactive things
- -ve values bad for the latency of other nice 0 tasks s is not
recommended for X or games etc. Initial scheduling latency is very
dependent on nice value in staircase. If you set a cpu hog to nice -5 it
will hurt audio at nice 0 and so on. Nicing latency unimportant things
with +ve values is more useful with this design. If you run X and
evolution at the same nice value they will get equal cpu share for
example so moving windows means redrawing evolution and X moving get
equal cpu. Nicing evolution +ve will make X smoother compared to
evolution redrawing and so on...

Con
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-28 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-25 16:40 [PATCH] Staircase scheduler v7.4 Michael Buesch
2004-06-25 16:46 ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-25 18:44   ` Michael Buesch
2004-06-25 19:05     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-06-25 19:48       ` Michael Buesch
2004-06-26  1:11         ` kernel
2004-06-26 16:33           ` Michael Buesch
2004-06-26 17:29           ` Michael Buesch
2004-06-27  9:14             ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-27 19:17             ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-06-27 19:28               ` Michael Buesch
2004-06-27 21:55                 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-06-28  0:15                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-28  8:40                     ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-06-28  8:49                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-28 11:53                         ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-06-28 12:11                           ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-06-28 15:03                             ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2004-06-28 15:19                               ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-28 15:39                                 ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2004-06-28 17:11                             ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-06-29  4:36                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-28 23:21                         ` Peter Williams
2004-06-29  4:44                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-29  6:01                             ` Ed Sweetman
2004-06-29  6:55                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-26  2:05         ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-27 10:24         ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-27 10:27           ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-27 23:50             ` Peter Williams
2004-06-27 12:00         ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-27 12:04           ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-27 12:54             ` Michael Buesch
2004-06-27 13:15               ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-25 16:46 ` Michael Buesch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-25 14:38 Con Kolivas
2004-06-25 18:32 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-06-26  1:28   ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-25 22:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-06-26  1:05   ` kernel
2004-06-26 20:04 ` Wes Janzen
2004-06-26 20:11   ` Michael Buesch
2004-06-26 21:14     ` Wes Janzen
2004-06-26 21:38       ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-06-27  9:16   ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-27 11:40     ` Grzegorz Kulewski

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