From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265981AbUGBBYx (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:24:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266025AbUGBBYx (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:24:53 -0400 Received: from opersys.com ([64.40.108.71]:64517 "EHLO www.opersys.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265515AbUGBBYs (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:24:48 -0400 Message-ID: <40E4B20F.8010503@opersys.com> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:53:35 -0400 From: Karim Yaghmour Reply-To: karim@opersys.com Organization: Opersys inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, fr, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Morton CC: Peter Martuccelli , faith@redhat.com, davidm@hpl.hp.com, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ray.lanza@hp.com, Thomas Zanussi , Richard J Moore , Robert Wisniewski , Michel Dagenais Subject: Re: [PATCH] IA64 audit support References: <200406301556.i5UFuGg8009251@redrum.boston.redhat.com> <20040701124644.5e301ca0.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20040701124644.5e301ca0.akpm@osdl.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Here's what I was trying to say: Andrew Morton wrote: > It's nice and simple. I, and quite a few other folks, have been trying to get the Linux Trace Toolkit in the kernel for the past 5 years and the code being added is almost identical to what the audit patch adds, yet we've always got reponses such "this is bloated" and Linus told us that he didn't see the use of this kind of stuff. Have we simply not figured out the secret handshake? I'd really like to have some advice here since I believe we have tried every trick in the book: posting the patches for review, asking kernel developers for input, porting the patches to multiple architectures, modulirizing the system, etc. Thanks, Karim -- Author, Speaker, Developer, Consultant Pushing Embedded and Real-Time Linux Systems Beyond the Limits http://www.opersys.com || karim@opersys.com || 1-866-677-4546